I played GW since the Alpha (yeah, with the wowish graphics) and it WAS an amazing game up untill Nightfall. I've never played a more challanging MMO. I've only been through Hyjal in WoW, but I felt like all the GW missions were, at least, around Kara. level if done at proper level and gear. This created a very fun and intricate group experience in PvE where you were basically raiding every mission (and they could take up to three hours, especially the later ones like the ring) [SIDE NOTE: to anyone that wants to say 'lol, missionz r ezy' allow me to clarify that I am talking about the game's start when people couldn't use some of the upgrades they can now].

This, however, doesn't exist in the game anymore. With heros and 'better' henchies you'll be playing a single player game with an intricate chat room. The more challanging missions require cookie-cutter builds, so if you roll a class you think is fun but doesn't fit into the mold you're screwed.

There is no real gear progression. I beat nightfall with my paragon without the max armor, so you can see gear doens't make a huge difference. There are a ton of skins but no stat. upgrades. This creates a 'skill' based environment (though, arguably, an environment of who can follow pre-written wiki steps) but leaves very little to work for if you don't care about slight and, in my opinion, unimpressive visual upgrades.

The game is definetly worth a shot for the experience but I wouldn't expect to get absorbed in it.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Try the witcher instead.redonion71

I'm playing The Witcher right now, and it's one of the best RPGs I've played in awhile, but I don't know ... I feel like it's been a long time since I played an RPG that really chased me around all day, where I caught myself thinking about it when I wasn't playing it (work, dinner table, etc.). I feel like you have to go back a few years to find that kind of game, hence my question about the older Diablo series.

I remember a few years back being in church on a Sunday with my wife and child, and when I looked up, everyone in the pews in front of me had little status indicator circles over their heads like the enemies do in Wizardry 8. I'd just finished a W8 marathon the night before. I agree it's probably not a good thing, but it's been awhile since I've been that into a game, and I kind of miss it.

Anyway, I appreciate all the comments. It sounds like D2 isn't very plot-driven, but all the customization and the skill trees sound interesting enough that I might check it out.

I just got a 360 yesterday as well, and I have to say I am not at all dissapointed. I bought the new package with the two free games and Halo 3 and all of them are simply amazingly stunning. I do, however, live in fear of the red rings -_-. I read your post and ran to place my 360 horizontaly, was that a good thing?

I also messed up with the XBL trial. I gave them my CC because I thought my free month of gold would start regardless, so I paid for the first month and never got it free :( . I sent Microsoft an e-mail, I am hoping they will help me fix this.

Ultimately, it is an amazing counsole. I wish I had not trash talked about it so much when it was released. I am here, eating my words.