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#1  Edited By B4X
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@scottpsfan14 said:

@b4x: A game that has hardware specific optimizations to the Xbox One will not port over to PC as is. What you are describing is a pipe dream.

Fable Legends.

DX12 mirrored API. x86 architecture.

It's easy mode.

You're full of shit says every developer that has wrote a pc game for 100's of configurations over the years.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Chutebox: no. fable legends is releasing for x1 and pc but it will support cross play so x1/pc players can play together.

what the moron b4x is suggesting is EVERY x1 exclusive will release for pc and will include cross-purchase so if u buy on pc then u are also getting x1 verison of the game and vice versa.

people will buy x1 because of its ability to stream games from a windows 10 pc. apprantly this is a game changer and sony should quit while they are ahead.

STFU really..

The environment is closed.. Win10 to X1.... one digital purchase dumbass would give you access to both.

I don't see retail working with this at all. If they do it... it will be digital only.

If you buy it on the Win10 or the Xbox One.. You're still buying the game from Microsoft.

It's CLOSED cross play. It is Xbox One on a PC.

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@Chutebox said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Chutebox said:

@b4x said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

Lol teh cloud

lol dx12

lol windows 10

lol b4x

Think about this for a minute. Streaming the same game from Win10 to the Xbox One at 1080p 60fps off an Intel processor and 400 dollar AMD or NVidia GPU.

That's called game the **** over. They are already allowing the Xbox One to stream to the PC at 1080p 60fps. What's to stop them from releasing a Win10 and X1 version of every game they make and allowing them to be played from either device?

EDIT: Essentially using your PC as the Hardware, and the X1 as a HUB.

What would be the point of the X1? Why not just connect your PC to the tv?

because in house streaming is the future. i know i can use other devices to stream games from pc but i rather buy x1 to do it. i am also a moron though so dont take what i say too seriously

Be serious a second lol. Do you have to have X1 to play the games now with Windows 10? How does this work?

I have made this clear. But I'll type it out in bullets.

The Xbox One has functionality... All games apps and features will work for $349 dollars. No PC needed. There will always be a market for the console. "Fable Legends" is 100% cross play... from Windows 10 to Xbox One. CROSS PLAY. Not no GFWL shit. If you have Xbox Gold... You have this already. They're one in the same. One ecosystem. You just supply the hardware "PC". They're giving WIN10 away. The Xbox One and this app are the same thing. It is a closed environment. Streaming will not give you those features. When the PC is off. You can still play the game.

Streaming from, or to the PC or Xbox One through a home network. Win10 Xbox One app and the Xbox One.. Is essentially a hardware upgrade, as far as you want to take it. Again "Fable Legends" answers this question being cross play right now. Here's the question. What do you think Fable Legends is going to play better on, a gaming PC or the Xbox One with both using the Unreal engine and DX12. The next question, streaming fable legends from your PC to Xbox One on a home network would be an instant hardware upgrade. It would be just as fast as your pc can push the game. It's like streaming a DNLA server on the Xbox One.

Owning the Xbox One is just a way to get a game to your bedroom without losing all it's features... Having that 2000 dollar PC stay where it's supposed to be without the wires. Chat, friends list, Netflix, Amazon Prime. All that will still work. PC to X1 is about the games. Cross Play. No GFWL garbage. Actually playing on Azure from your PC to other PC players or Xbox One users. This is 100% happening right now. "Fable Legends". With Phil saying more to come.

Do not think this is going to be free online play on the PC. With cross play games. Win10 X1 app and Xbox One are the same thing. They're twins. I would 100% guess you will need XBLG to access the features.

For all the guy saying publishers won't do this.. Come the **** on. You act like they won't release the game on steam too.

This is a closed Xbox environment. It has nothing to do with steam, ps4, wiiu... origin or any other service. It's closed. Only Xbox gamers need apply. It is an Win10 Xbox One app.

Do you need an X1 to use this service.. No.. Would you want an Xbox One.. I say hell yes. It's great to have options though.

Yes and Whole home streaming is kind of a thing grenadetard. DNLA says hi.

Go get a job you dumb basterd.

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@Krelian-co said:

@b4x said:

@Krelian-co said:

@b4x said:

@Krelian-co said:

@FastRobby said:

@Krelian-co said:

This will help pc, not xbone, it will make easier for devs to go after the pc money since its easier than ever, and xbone will lose its exclusives which we have already seen with most of its games being ported to pc, so the question is why would anyone buy an xbone then if the pc does everything better, nintendo and playstation retain their games and remain a must have since they differentiate from pc.

This will help Xbox One, because if you buy the game one time, you have it on PC AND Xbox One, so why would you buy the PS4, and pay for a game twice?

yeah now you are making bullshit and are too dumb to explain

a. why would that not be profitable for microsoft

b. why if i buy the ps4 would be buying the game twice according to you?

c. why they won't do it

Lems are out of control spreading ignorance and bullshit with this lolz.

So when I'm right again... Then what.

I always thought the would release an Xbox Pro version.. This is even better.

this is not even in microsoft hands, do you think devs will stop selling separate versions on both pc and xbone? yeah dream on. The news is you can STREAM games, that's it, they won't be interchangeable on both systems. Also they may have the same os, but the hardware is still different, the game will still have to be ported, even if its easier now.

Apparently you have your mind made up on this. Closed Mind. DX12 porting is easy mode. Microsoft gives away other peoples games everyday AC: U. They couldn't possible make this a standard. Digital only distribution cross platform for it to work. Giving developers a bigger profit. Removing the middle man. GameStop and Used game sales.

If you can't and won't look at the possibilities of this.. game on dude.

EDIT: It's the same API on both systems and x86 architecture yes it is interchangeable... 100% How do you think they write PC software.

In an API guy.

i am off, keep spreading lies and bullshit, i hope someone will have better patience explaining why it won't work, financially and from the developers point of view, if you want to keep making lies and bullshit as you said, game on.

@Wasdie we need you here to explain him why it won't work, i am not good explaining basic things to morons.

You may not like the answer you get from Wasdie.

This is 100% feasible right now. There are zero limitations to anything I've said depending on your home network bandwidth. None.

If you can stream a Blu-ray from a PC DNLA server to your Xbox One... in your home network. You can do this. People are streaming 4k content on their home networks man.

You're really not this dumb? You ever heard of a thing called PS NOW? That's from the internet to the PS4. Now think what you can do on a home network with 0-5ms ping and huge bandwidth. Ever been to a LAN party?

Publishers can and will still release their games on Steam separate, for people that don't want to be part of this MS ecosystem.

@Wasdie Please explain to this Damage Controlling cow... calling people morons. :p

It's your turn. Do me proud. Expose his brilliance.

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@Krelian-co said:

@b4x said:

@Krelian-co said:

@FastRobby said:

@Krelian-co said:

This will help pc, not xbone, it will make easier for devs to go after the pc money since its easier than ever, and xbone will lose its exclusives which we have already seen with most of its games being ported to pc, so the question is why would anyone buy an xbone then if the pc does everything better, nintendo and playstation retain their games and remain a must have since they differentiate from pc.

This will help Xbox One, because if you buy the game one time, you have it on PC AND Xbox One, so why would you buy the PS4, and pay for a game twice?

yeah now you are making bullshit and are too dumb to explain

a. why would that not be profitable for microsoft

b. why if i buy the ps4 would be buying the game twice according to you?

c. why they won't do it

Lems are out of control spreading ignorance and bullshit with this lolz.

So when I'm right again... Then what.

I always thought the would release an Xbox Pro version.. This is even better.

this is not even in microsoft hands, do you think devs will stop selling separate versions on both pc and xbone? yeah dream on. The news is you can STREAM games, that's it, they won't be interchangeable on both systems. Also they may have the same os, but the hardware is still different, the game will still have to be ported, even if its easier now.

Apparently you have your mind made up on this. Closed Mind. DX12 porting is easy mode. Microsoft gives away other peoples games everyday AC: U. They couldn't possible make this a standard. Digital only distribution cross platform for it to work. Giving developers a bigger profit. Removing the middle man. GameStop and Used game sales.

If you can't and won't look at the possibilities of this.. game on dude.

EDIT: It's the same API on both systems and x86 architecture yes it is interchangeable... 100% How do you think they write PC software.

In an API guy.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@Krelian-co said:

@b4x said:

If they keep the games in their bubble. The Win10 Xbox One app and X1 I'm all for it.

Phil Spencer is giving hints towards this. To use your X1 as a hub for game streaming in your home from your 2000 dollar PC.

It needs to happen now. Release one version of the game that is supported on both platforms. It's brilliant if they do it.

Who knows though.

so you are saying they would use the pc hardware to run the games, then why would there be any need for an xbone? if they can make the game run on pc, then why people would buy an xbone instead of a pc?

That's microsofts fear. And the reason why they even pay for games like Dead Rising 3, Ryse and Tomb Raider to NOT appear on PC for a year or so.

They fear that if all the Xbox games would be available on PC, gamers would see no use at all for their Xbox product.

Is that feat true ? Who knows.

MS thought PC gamers would jump massively to Xbox when they totally abandoned PC gamers. But they didn't. So if MS wants to see more of their games sold they better make them available on PC too.

Microsoft selling software as a dual package. Win10 and X1 versions for the same cost. Considering the ease to port. How could they not win.

They would still receive royalties off the software. They would either sell Xbox Ones or Copies of Windows 10.

They would be stupid not to do this.

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@Krelian-co said:

@FastRobby said:

@Krelian-co said:

This will help pc, not xbone, it will make easier for devs to go after the pc money since its easier than ever, and xbone will lose its exclusives which we have already seen with most of its games being ported to pc, so the question is why would anyone buy an xbone then if the pc does everything better, nintendo and playstation retain their games and remain a must have since they differentiate from pc.

This will help Xbox One, because if you buy the game one time, you have it on PC AND Xbox One, so why would you buy the PS4, and pay for a game twice?

yeah now you are making bullshit and are too dumb to explain

a. why would that not be profitable for microsoft

b. why if i buy the ps4 would be buying the game twice according to you?

c. why they won't do it

Lems are out of control spreading ignorance and bullshit with this lolz.

So when I'm right again... Then what.

I always thought they would release an Xbox Pro version.. This is even better.

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@Krelian-co said:

@b4x said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@b4x said:

Think about this for a minute. Streaming the same game from Win10 to the Xbox One at 1080p 60fps off an Intel processor and 400 dollar AMD or NVidia GPU.

That's called game the **** over. They are already allowing the Xbox One to stream to the PC at 1080p 60fps. What's to stop them from releasing a Win10 and X1 version of every game they make and allowing them to be played from either device?

EDIT: Essentially using your PC as the Hardware, and the X1 as a HUB.

What's stopping them ?

The other question would be: MS hasn't done this in years i.e. release a PC version alongside an Xbox version so why would they start doing it ?

When PC gamers got something from Micorosoft in the past years it has either been

- A port from Xbox years down the line (Fable Anniversary, Halo 2)

-A smaller indie game on the same day as Xbox release or a bit later (Mark of the Ninja, Ori)

MS is really afraid to start porting their big hitters over from Xbox to PC. I'm talking Forzas and Halos and QBs and such.

If they keep the games in their bubble. The Win10 Xbox One app and X1 I'm all for it.

Phil Spencer is giving hints towards this. To use your X1 as a hub for game streaming in your home from your 2000 dollar PC.

It needs to happen now. Release one version of the game that is supported on both platforms. It's brilliant if they do it.

Who knows though.

so you are saying they would use the pc hardware to run the games, then why would there be any need for an xbone? if they can make the game run on pc, then why people would buy an xbone instead of a pc?

It would be the Xbox family. Either platform will run the game stand alone. "Fable Legends".

The same thing Sony could do with an app on Win10 with their API running on both platforms..

It would not make consoles obsolete. The games are still going to work on your console. "Fable Legends"

The big thing is to be able to piggy back off of that gaming PC hardware from anywhere in your home through your X1 or PS4.

Anywhere... Backed by the power of a gaming rig. Without losing the functionality of the console itself.

Do you see where I'm coming from?

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@Krelian-co said:

@b4x said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

Lol teh cloud

lol dx12

lol windows 10

lol b4x

Think about this for a minute. Streaming the same game from Win10 to the Xbox One at 1080p 60fps off an Intel processor and 400 dollar AMD or NVidia GPU.

That's called game the **** over. They are already allowing the Xbox One to stream to the PC at 1080p 60fps. What's to stop them from releasing a Win10 and X1 version of every game they make and allowing them to be played from either device?

EDIT: Essentially using your PC as the Hardware, and the X1 as a HUB.

what microsoft is doing is introducing a middle man, why would i want to stream the xbone on my monitor/tv if i can just plug it directly. Anyway of course lems would hype this, as always.

It's a way to upgrade your hardware.. X1 / PS4 "if they make an app." Without ever buying another system. Your system just act as a host.

This is 100% worth hyping.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@b4x said:

Think about this for a minute. Streaming the same game from Win10 to the Xbox One at 1080p 60fps off an Intel processor and 400 dollar AMD or NVidia GPU.

That's called game the **** over. They are already allowing the Xbox One to stream to the PC at 1080p 60fps. What's to stop them from releasing a Win10 and X1 version of every game they make and allowing them to be played from either device?

EDIT: Essentially using your PC as the Hardware, and the X1 as a HUB.

What's stopping them ?

The other question would be: MS hasn't done this in years i.e. release a PC version alongside an Xbox version so why would they start doing it ?

When PC gamers got something from Micorosoft in the past years it has either been

- A port from Xbox years down the line (Fable Anniversary, Halo 2)

-A smaller indie game on the same day as Xbox release or a bit later (Mark of the Ninja, Ori)

MS is really afraid to start porting their big hitters over from Xbox to PC. I'm talking Forzas and Halos and QBs and such.

If they keep the games in their bubble. The Win10 Xbox One app and X1 I'm all for it.

Phil Spencer is giving hints towards this. To use your X1 as a hub for game streaming in your home from your 2000 dollar PC.

It needs to happen now. Release one version of the game that is supported on both platforms. It's brilliant if they do it.

Who knows though.