@bluestorm83: "You just want a fairytale ending where everyone lives!"
I never cared about a happy ending, I just wanted an honorable ending. My Shepard was never a mass murderer, a rapist or a dictator...
"the Good Guys lose everything for the greater cause."
Yes. Most people want to do some crime for the "greater cause", the easy route. To lose everything for the greater cause is the way to go. A hero path. Sadly, many people believe that "the greater good" is somehow a free path to do evil actions.
"What I hate is a story where the Good Guys lose not only the war but their ideology..."
Damn... This is like to hear myself talking... Very nice to see someone who understand the full price of ME3.
"It's like the official endings were badly written fan fiction by someone who had only the most cursory information on the setting."
Nah... The endings is a result of a nihilistic view about reality. Two morons who thought that the violation of organic condition is somehow a good thing. They wanted an artistic ending, and they left us with three evil crimes.
The funny thing is that what Shepard says in the "refusal" ending truly reflects what my ME1 and ME2 would have said.
But the endings are just a part of the narrative disaster. ME3 destroyed ME1 main plot (Sovereign suicidal attack, and the major strategy of the reapers) and the most stupid deus ex device I ever saw. (A weapon that no one knows what it is, what it does, if works or even if the schematics are complete becomes the only war strategy).(but it gets worse, this weapon needs to fit in an unknown device... guess logic from an engineering perspective is out of the equation)
@Akriel_Boulve: "yeah I think you're stuck in the echo chamber"
Sorry... but I´m right in the middle of the equation. Extremes are always never a good idea.
"I bet you still believe in..."
Need to be more specific... If what you are trying to explain is something culturally US related I need more context...
Still, for what I see and read the right in US is by far the most "crazy" people of the bunch... And let's face it, they choose a racist clown as their leader for 4 years so...
@bluestorm83: "I hated every single ending, until they patched it with the "Refuse" ending"
Ok... My respect for you went 1000% up... And now you "super Christian" and "my Good Christian Man Shepherd" starts to make sense in my mind.
Yet, lets not forget that the refusal ending is also a middle finger for ME1 and ME2 fans... Supermac hates the honorable Shepard...
"that was such a complete betrayal of the game's overriding themes"
My friend... My respect for you is great. I truly love to see people that understand what that ending means. The betrayal of all values of the Paragon (and even renegade) Shepard. A betrayal for ME1 and ME2 main themes. A betrayal to all the goodness and honor in ME universe.
@clawson34: "I guess it was just easier to read the first sentence ."
Are you blaming me for your own statement?
The romance is a structural part of their storytelling. So it makes no sense to say that you are "all for taking all romance options out" and then say "they should make their vision". So, choose a logic...
I take my statement back... you beat me for 2 years... LOL
"Back in the 90’s the way to deal with toxicity was to ignore and/or override."
Yes... but you have to realize that times changed. I have zero problem while dealing with morons, but I understand that some people are more sensitive to stupidity.
There is a levels of toxicity that is acceptable or able to be tolerated (the moderators on this site may be the best persons to reply to this), but if there are not limits this place will become a war zone pretty fast.
@muddrox: "I think democrats are partly to blame for Trump being elected"
I don't know who's to blame... all I know is that the US never looked as stupid as in the last four years... Even Putin and Xi Jinping look now as clever guys...
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