Even if they have supposedly deteriorated slightly is it worth calling it the worst trailer ever? No it's not. So long as the game-play is there i.e. what you're actually going to PLAY, then does it really matter that much? If you want something pretty to look at browse through some pictures on Google images.DamnILoveGames

I don't give a rats a$$ about game-play as long as its free roam,I can cause mayhem and the graphics are kick a$$. If I was into next gen because of game-play and not graphics I would be stupid to buy one. I am a self confessed gfx whore. you want game-play go buy an Atari 2600 with space invaders and stop f***ing telling me to accept crappy graphics when i spent over 200 on my console to be up to date...no wonder pc guys take the piss out of console users,having to use the excuse of game-play over gfx.

now back to my point... I think all the pre rendered shots are now at the last moment replaced with a true representation of the actual gfx and they look a little lacking. that was my point,not to get a conversation of game-play over gfx. sheeple.

Wow that was almost laughable that trailer,it looked so bad,the gfx looked about 20 times worse than the great ones we have been fed these past months. perhaps they were showing us the shots from a pc build and now just before release give us the real deal for console,yes i find it that bad. my opinion. im angry it was so sh** i had to post. Please tell me that's not the one they will use to show in TV?

Two Earthquakes Shake North West UK

Hmmm http://news.sky.com/story/1132988/two-earthquakes-shake-north-west

I find this disturbing,they are about to start this in the uk but I have seen videos on youtube about this and the effects it has on your water supply.. see this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbHdrmwbrdc

More info on fracking... http://dangersoffracking.com/

Does this cause sink holes,earthquakes and an abundance of methane in our drinking water? Its looking like it does.

[QUOTE="bronze_earth"]I think pc is on the way out as any kind of game platform MethodManFTW

You take one line out of context to make your point?...as I said...steam is not doing so good,it just got Arma 3 hacked into,all the users account data the usual...so yeah ok "steam is bigger woohoo" I closed my steam account after reading about it getting hacked.

I have a laptop that can handle anything but I never buy games for it as it does my head in having to update and install patches etc etc I just got Arma3 installed and it runs at full spec....great gfx...great concept....shlt online,hackers,coders,scripters and wankers fill that game and that's even through steam. I never play the game even tho my lappy handles it,the hassle just isn't worth my time.

As for building your own pc sure if you have the know how but don't expect a smooth time of it not able to take it back to the place you bought it because of failing parts.

I think pc is on the way out as any kind of game platform and as the latest consoles become more than capable of producing the quality we want from a pc without the hassle I say bring it on.

my laptop is i7 3630qm 16 gig ram gtx 675m, 2 hdd x 500 gig. so its a capable yet unimpressive machine.

Im sick of zombies. let saints row do that crap.

I think we will al be a bit busy lol.