Asking for no fan boy replies on the system wars forum is like asking a crack head to hold your dope while you run to the store.

It just aint gonna happen.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

Nagidar

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

You know what, heres one.

And another.

I read both articles from start to end, the first article does not say the 360 GPU is better than that of the PS3, it simply says it's more flexible.

The second article does claim the 360 GPU is more powerful, this claim is made by an anonymous person who claims to be a developer who also even admits that what he said was his "personal feelings".

Is this your "alot of people"? One anonymous person who claims to be a developer and also admits what he is writing is based on his "personal feelings"?

I don't think I'm the one grasping for straws.

PS:

Efficiency:

S: (n) efficiency (the ratio of the output to the input of any system) - wordnet.princeton.edu.

And what did I say it meant above again? "the ratio of the output to the input".

Nice try though.

Efficiency: the state or quality of being efficient; competency in performance.

The definition of efficiency varies depending on the subject, and in this subject, its toward maximum power to output, otherwise known as performance.

Of course the developer is going to be anonymous, he didn't want any backlash.

In the end it doesn't matter, because wether you want to face it or not, you're wrong, this is not an opinion, you are plain wrong, you can keep thinking you know what you're talking about, but I'll tell you right now, you have no idea how any of this works and its obvious even if you did, your too much of a fanboy to admit it. You seriously make Cows look bad, most cows don't even argue this.

And your backlash argument doesn't hold water, the developers who said it was not the case that the 360 GPU was more powerful than the PS3 did not even try to be anonymous and they have not had any backlash from saying that.

And where did I say I was right? I simply referred to a statement made by the developers of Burnout, you then posted saying it was already proven otherwise, I asked for sources and you have yet to backup your "alot of people" argument or provide sources.

I never set out to be "right" but it's looking like it may turn out that way after all.

Also, you can keep saying I'm wrong all you want and it's not an opinion, but in fact it's your own opinion until you show otherwise.

You can use the term fan boy all you want but it doesn't change the fact that what I posted was sourced and every question I asked was legitimate, I did not bash any other system nor did I praise the PS3; I simply corrected the post that said the 360 GPU was better than the PS3, basing that correction on two known game developers.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

Nagidar

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

You know what, heres one.

And another.

I read both articles from start to end, the first article does not say the 360 GPU is better than that of the PS3, it simply says it's more flexible.

The second article does claim the 360 GPU is more powerful, this claim is made by an anonymous person who claims to be a developer who also even admits that what he said was his "personal feelings".

Is this your "alot of people"? One anonymous person who claims to be a developer and also admits what he is writing is based on his "personal feelings"?

I don't think I'm the one grasping for straws.

PS:

Efficiency:

S: (n) efficiency (the ratio of the output to the input of any system) - wordnet.princeton.edu.

And what did I say it meant above again? "the ratio of the output to the input".

Nice try though.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

Nagidar

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

You know what, heres one.

And another.

I read both articles from start to end, the first article does not say the 360 GPU is better than that of the PS3, itsimply says it's more flexible.

The second article does claim the 360 GPU is more powerful, this claim is made by an anonymous person who claims to be a developer who also even admits that what he said was his "personal feelings".

Is this your "alot of people"? One anonymous person who claims to be a developer and also admits what he said was based on his "personal feelings"?

I don't think I'm the one grasping for straws.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

what i find it funny is that somehow there always that one guy that thinks he holds the key to truth based on what he thinks it is, then he comes to a forum/website which is visited by hundreds if not thousands of people everyday thinking that he is right and that no one else ever really stoped to think about itst1ka

If you're not referring to me then please ignore the rest of this post.

Please show me where I even hinted at "holding the key" to the truth based on what I think. I simply referred to what two game developers said regarding the PS3.

So, please learn better reading skills before you make your own judgments based on opinion and not fact.

[QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.