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#1 crazyfruitbat32
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I 100% agree Microsoft marketing is far better then Sony. Problem is that the ps3 does so many things that caters for all ranges of entertainment for almost every type of person, its trying to break all that down into one marketing campaign. However its stupid of Sony not using this to its advantage. I know of a few people who went out and got a 3d TV and a cheap bluray player not knowing that the very system under their TV is a bluray player and 3d compatible to.so yeah Sony marketing needs to improve. Its like resistance 3,single player was brilliant and got a very good review score but did Sony market it? Well not that I know of cause I didn't see any advertisement for it. Same with PS move and sharp shooter, it works brilliant with fps yet people still don't know this. I personally think ps3 offers alot more then 360 and if Sony put this out, more people would see the greatness of ps3. (That's my opinion as I can't see what my 360 really offered me other than errors.) Still its been announced that dust514 for ps3 is also getting mouse and keyboard support. One thing even you 360 lads gotta admire about Sony, is the amount of 1st party devs they have on board and that Sony are willing to push the online gaming to new new experiences that Microsoft are not.
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#2 crazyfruitbat32
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="crazyfruitbat32"]Lol launch prices do crack me up. So all In uk pounds: Ok so 360 was 299.99 for the 20gb console with no games. then add 69.99 for wireless adapter. Next 19.99 for rechargeable battery and cable x2. 39 for second controller. 39.99 for yearly sub to play online. Then if HD-Dvd took off, add an extra 199 for a separate drive to play HD DVDs. Ps3 60gb 399 Built in wifi Built in Bluetooth. Built in card readers. built in bluray player (which back then a bluray player alone cost 800-1000). Free online gaming. Sling box. Extra controller 29.99. Just by this alone shows that, no matter how much ps3 appeared to be over priced it actually was a bargain for what you actually got out of the box compared to 360. Also 360 sales not only include replaced 360's or warranty claims but also includes the millions that got banned and had to buy another 360 to get unbanned. So if ps3 sales include people just wanting a bluray player? Well least its a proper sale and not based on the errors that is Microsoft.

you don't live in the UK do you, i bought my 360 20gb at launch for 280, i paid 15 quid for a plug and play charge kit, a wireless adapter is optional and the extra controllers for Ps3 (which you had to buy if you wanted rumble ) where 40 quid, also, the Ps3 60gb was 425 quid, talk about posting deliberately misleading figures, you SONY fans love to beef out the 360 with things that where not even needed to make the Ps3 look cheaper, you forgot to add the cost of a HDMI cable to the price of the Ps3 as well,lol "The palpable sigh of relief emanating from the games industry last week when Sony finally announced that the PlayStation 3 will reach the UK on March 23 was swiftly drowned by howls of outrage from consumers (expressed vehemently on The Guardian's gamesblog) regarding the next-gen console's RRP of 425." http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/feb/01/games.guardianweeklytechnologysection2 "Following intense speculation Microsoft UK have finally announced the Xbox 360 price point. The basic console is 209.99 while the HD-equipped "premium" model is 279.99. But splitting the market is a gamble for Microsoft." http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2005/aug/17/xbox360ukpri1

Actually I'm from UK and the first 360 cost 299 ps3 cost 399 at blockbusters. Yes wireless adapter was optional but from a wireless setup cost 69.99. My battery and charging cable cost 19.99 tesco back then. ps3 dual shock cost 29.99 without rumble as it wasn't released for a while after. The Hd drive that was separate was 199, so if hd-DVD took off, that's what you would have paid. Ps3 had built in bluray (still does) that cost back in them days 800-1000.
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#3 crazyfruitbat32
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Actually I'm not anyone else using another account. Frankly I'm not quite that sad, although its funny most 360 boys seem to think the same...I wonder how many of you actually do the very thing you accuse me of?. Hahah so sad as I also witness this on YouTube all the time where 360 boys create multiple accounts to respond to their own post. So it's actually a trait that 360 fanboys use. Anyway!. Ps3 is well documented for being the better system outside of the US otherwise ps3 wouldn't of caught up in sales. Plus whether you agree or not? Ps3 has had more hurdles with LG blocking ps3 sales in Europe last year, psn hack, Japanese Earthquake etc and ps3 still managed to get high sales despite the obsticles ps3 faced in 2011. So you gotta hand it to ps3 for getting the sales it has. Where as what problems did 360 face that slowed down sales? Nothing and still only just passed ps3 ( according to your info). So for 360 only just taking the lead with nothing preventing sales, compared to ps3 that had loads preventing sales.. 360 don't seem to that good after all. So I know this is if's and buts's but... What if ps3 didn't have anything preventing sales like in 2011? And also bare in mind that it is a FACT that Microsoft was banning random people from Xbl for no reason and got so bad that watchdog stepped in and confirmed Microsoft was in the wrong. So I ask you this, if watchdog hadn't got involved? How many more people have been wrongly banned?. After all this don't include over 1 million bannings from Xbl in 2010. Microsoft even said themselves , that to get unbanned, you must buy another 360 and offered no system to dispute MS claims. Whether or not you think this is bull or not? It happend and also contributes to 360 sales. Plus with 54% hardware failure rates from older models compared to ps3 10% Maybe this is why over 5% of 360 sales is negligible ?. Still.. It's all about the games right? And let's face it, when 360 has nothing else and 360 boys know it deep down, whats the next step to defence? Sales hahaha cause you have nothing else. Ps3 has the better exclusives, more verity in its exclusives. Has better games on its psn store compared to Xbl. Don't get me wrong, Xbl display is nicer but content is nowhere near as good, neither is hardly any of it free. With multiplats, ps3 now gets more content. Ps3 has the better motion control (please don't give that crap that kinect is better) lol after all, what has it had from launch?. Ps move much more adaptable to gaming then kinect. Easier to implement into games. Ps3 gets cross platform play with games like portal2, dust514, counter strike with more titles to come I'm sure. Plus cross platform play with ps vita. So from a gamers perspective, the only thing 360 offers is network chat with other 360 users which I don't know anyone who has 360 use this, me included. So with 2011 very bleak year for 360 in gaming 360 only got carried by its casual market aka kinect. 2012 for 360...looking like another year where 360 boys waiting for one game to be released that can only be experienced on 360. So what does 360 really offer in terms of gaming?????. Just look at this year, ps3 has twisted metal, star hawk, dust514, possible the last guardian , possible god of war 4, syphon filter 4, the last of us towards end of the year. Xbox360? Halo 4.... Speaking of halo, their is like 6 halo games on 360 alone... See, no verity. Anyway bed time. Final note: 360 good if your friends are on that system but ps3 the better system for gamers. Oh and jak and daxter HD collection this week :-D classic games.
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#4 crazyfruitbat32
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Lol launch prices do crack me up. So all In uk pounds: Ok so 360 was 299.99 for the 20gb console with no games. then add 69.99 for wireless adapter. Next 19.99 for rechargeable battery and cable x2. 39 for second controller. 39.99 for yearly sub to play online. Then if HD-Dvd took off, add an extra 199 for a separate drive to play HD DVDs. Ps3 60gb 399 Built in wifi Built in Bluetooth. Built in card readers. built in bluray player (which back then a bluray player alone cost 800-1000). Free online gaming. Sling box. Extra controller 29.99. Just by this alone shows that, no matter how much ps3 appeared to be over priced it actually was a bargain for what you actually got out of the box compared to 360. Also 360 sales not only include replaced 360's or warranty claims but also includes the millions that got banned and had to buy another 360 to get unbanned. So if ps3 sales include people just wanting a bluray player? Well least its a proper sale and not based on the errors that is Microsoft.
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#5 crazyfruitbat32
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So like i asked earlier, what does 360 have to offer in gaming? What is 360 done or had in 2011? what is it getting in 2012? Same question with ps3.
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[QUOTE="crazyfruitbat32"]http://attackofthefanboy.com/featured/how-the-ps3-closed-the-gap-on-the-xbox-360/ http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212831p1.html?RSSwhen2011-11-17_182000&RSSid=1212831&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ignfeeds%2Fps3+%28IGN+PS3%29 http://www.360magazine.co.uk/comment/aggressive-ps3-price-drops-could-catch-microsoft-napping/ This bit is interesting in the 360mag link Microsoft might not be quite as successful on that last point. Away from the US, worldwide sales of the PS3 are actually ahead of the 360 for 2011, with Sony selling ten per cent more consoles than Microsoft thanks to strong showings in Japan and Europe. The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich. "The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich" Now could this be talking about that 360 sales do include warranty claims, plus people paying out for their 3rd to 4th 360 that are out of warranty?. What about the Millions that got banned in 2010 and the people who got banned in 2011 randomly for no reason. Now i know you will say it was people using copied games etc but it wasn't. At first microsoft said they where in right in what they were doing and didn't need to explain why or offer some sort of way to prove it was microsofts error and they denied it on and on...till watchdog on UK tv contacted microsoft pretending to be a customer. Guess what the solution was to get unbanned??? To buy another 360. Once microsoft realised it was watchdog on to them, microsoft admitted that it was their fault all along and it was a software error. So How many 360 sold where to do with this aswell? was this another way for microsoft to force existing customers to buy yet another 360???. So the article IGN posted does make sense and explains how ps3 caught up. Disagree? well you explain how ps3 caught up in sales??. Plus if you look at ps3 sales blocked in Europe by LG and the psn hack, ps3 went through alot of crap and still sold loads....I know its all if's but's and maybe's but what if the ps3 didn't face sales being blocked or face the psn hack?. Now i know you say vgchartz can't be trusted etc but its showing sales on a weekly bases and so far in 2012, ps3 leading. Is this accurate? does it matter?. So what does matter? GAMES! and 2011 and 2012 is looking pretty bleak for 360, after all the 360 is all about the games, or so it was back in 2007 lol. So what now?. What is 360 doing that ps3 isn't regarding games?.SUD123456

Hey troll, how come you didn't post this from the same article from Jesse:

"The problem is the Xbox 360, which has increased its velocity without the aid of any price cuts or redesigns over the last year. The Xbox 360's success is simply incredible." Divnich, a respected games industry forecaster, added that the Xbox 360's sales have defied his predictions for months. "The only reasoning that seems plausible is the Kinect or the strength of its software library has reached some sort of tipping point making the Xbox 360 an incredible value to consumers at its current price point," he concluded.

But again 360 sales include people buying more then 3 xbox consoles to replace their broken one, warranty claims AND millions of users getting banned and having to buy another xbox360 just to get unbanned.... Bit dodgy if you ask me. Oh and what about "Away from the US, worldwide sales of the PS3 are actually ahead of the 360 for 2011, with Sony selling ten per cent more consoles than Microsoft thanks to strong showings in Japan and Europe".
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="crazyfruitbat32"]http://attackofthefanboy.com/featured/how-the-ps3-closed-the-gap-on-the-xbox-360/ http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212831p1.html?RSSwhen2011-11-17_182000&RSSid=1212831&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ignfeeds%2Fps3+%28IGN+PS3%29 http://www.360magazine.co.uk/comment/aggressive-ps3-price-drops-could-catch-microsoft-napping/ This bit is interesting in the 360mag link Microsoft might not be quite as successful on that last point. Away from the US, worldwide sales of the PS3 are actually ahead of the 360 for 2011, with Sony selling ten per cent more consoles than Microsoft thanks to strong showings in Japan and Europe. The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich. "The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich" Now could this be talking about that 360 sales do include warranty claims, plus people paying out for their 3rd to 4th 360 that are out of warranty?. What about the Millions that got banned in 2010 and the people who got banned in 2011 randomly for no reason. Now i know you will say it was people using copied games etc but it wasn't. At first microsoft said they where in right in what they were doing and didn't need to explain why or offer some sort of way to prove it was microsofts error and they denied it on and on...till watchdog on UK tv contacted microsoft pretending to be a customer. Guess what the solution was to get unbanned??? To buy another 360. Once microsoft realised it was watchdog on to them, microsoft admitted that it was their fault all along and it was a software error. So How many 360 sold where to do with this aswell? was this another way for microsoft to force existing customers to buy yet another 360???. So the article IGN posted does make sense and explains how ps3 caught up. Disagree? well you explain how ps3 caught up in sales??.

How can we explain something that exists only in your imagination

What bit is in my imagination?
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="crazyfruitbat32"]http://attackofthefanboy.com/featured/how-the-ps3-closed-the-gap-on-the-xbox-360/ http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212831p1.html?RSSwhen2011-11-17_182000&RSSid=1212831&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ignfeeds%2Fps3+%28IGN+PS3%29 http://www.360magazine.co.uk/comment/aggressive-ps3-price-drops-could-catch-microsoft-napping/ This bit is interesting in the 360mag link Microsoft might not be quite as successful on that last point. Away from the US, worldwide sales of the PS3 are actually ahead of the 360 for 2011, with Sony selling ten per cent more consoles than Microsoft thanks to strong showings in Japan and Europe. The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich. "The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich" Now could this be talking about that 360 sales do include warranty claims, plus people paying out for their 3rd to 4th 360 that are out of warranty?. What about the Millions that got banned in 2010 and the people who got banned in 2011 randomly for no reason. Now i know you will say it was people using copied games etc but it wasn't. At first microsoft said they where in right in what they were doing and didn't need to explain why or offer some sort of way to prove it was microsofts error and they denied it on and on...till watchdog on UK tv contacted microsoft pretending to be a customer. Guess what the solution was to get unbanned??? To buy another 360. Once microsoft realised it was watchdog on to them, microsoft admitted that it was their fault all along and it was a software error. So How many 360 sold where to do with this aswell? was this another way for microsoft to force existing customers to buy yet another 360???. So the article IGN posted does make sense and explains how ps3 caught up. Disagree? well you explain how ps3 caught up in sales??.

all of them OPINION articles that have nothing to do with the discussion at hand and are in no way evidence that contradicts any of the evidence that was already provided,interesting read though the IGN article i must say.

Ok so what about from 360magazine?. How would you explain ps3 sales closed the gap?.
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http://attackofthefanboy.com/featured/how-the-ps3-closed-the-gap-on-the-xbox-360/ http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212831p1.html?RSSwhen2011-11-17_182000&RSSid=1212831&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ignfeeds%2Fps3+%28IGN+PS3%29 http://www.360magazine.co.uk/comment/aggressive-ps3-price-drops-could-catch-microsoft-napping/ This bit is interesting in the 360mag link Microsoft might not be quite as successful on that last point. Away from the US, worldwide sales of the PS3 are actually ahead of the 360 for 2011, with Sony selling ten per cent more consoles than Microsoft thanks to strong showings in Japan and Europe. The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich. "The Xbox 360 does retain a five per cent lead over its rival worldwide, but it's an increasingly negligible margin according to analyst Jesse Divnich" Now could this be talking about that 360 sales do include warranty claims, plus people paying out for their 3rd to 4th 360 that are out of warranty?. What about the Millions that got banned in 2010 and the people who got banned in 2011 randomly for no reason. Now i know you will say it was people using copied games etc but it wasn't. At first microsoft said they where in right in what they were doing and didn't need to explain why or offer some sort of way to prove it was microsofts error and they denied it on and on...till watchdog on UK tv contacted microsoft pretending to be a customer. Guess what the solution was to get unbanned??? To buy another 360. Once microsoft realised it was watchdog on to them, microsoft admitted that it was their fault all along and it was a software error. So How many 360 sold where to do with this aswell? was this another way for microsoft to force existing customers to buy yet another 360???. So the article IGN posted does make sense and explains how ps3 caught up. Disagree? well you explain how ps3 caught up in sales??. Plus if you look at ps3 sales blocked in Europe by LG and the psn hack, ps3 went through alot of crap and still sold loads....I know its all if's but's and maybe's but what if the ps3 didn't face sales being blocked or face the psn hack?. Now i know you say vgchartz can't be trusted etc but its showing sales on a weekly bases and so far in 2012, ps3 leading. Is this accurate? does it matter?. So what does matter? GAMES! and 2011 and 2012 is looking pretty bleak for 360, after all the 360 is all about the games, or so it was back in 2007 lol. So what now?. What is 360 doing that ps3 isn't regarding games?.
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#10 crazyfruitbat32
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Look, lets ignore sales here for one minute. Lets talk about what each system has to offer... After all, don't most if not all 360 gamers say "its all about the games". Then lets talk about what system has to offer and what system is getting in the future. After all its what its about and if sales really make the better system? well then we all should be playing the DS. LOL So what does ps3 have to offer? and what does 360 have to offer?.
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