In battle the graphics are a 2nd, your not exactly gonna stop fighting in a slayer match to look about n say "ooh isn't the grass intricate" are ya. As for when you can see the graphics they aint great, 911.18 megabytes for 3 maps is only to make them HD and they are pretty small for the 360's power. Also no 16 player modes in the beta, only 8 so it is like Halo 2. You can see the glitches like grenades not going off, 3 shots to the head with a sniper and people keep running, bullets going through people (seeing rockets fly through peoples chests is funny) plus non weapon faults like people getting stuck in floors and walls. For a beta it is poor but fun altho sometime lastnight about 10:45 ish the servers went down so cant speak more on the whole other aspects. With 16 player modes intact (and hopefully bigger maps, not like these tiny ones) the online play should be great on release. The worst part of Halo 2 was playing 2 story lines at once in single player, nobody or reviewers I know like the switching of the 2 characters. I think this has been fixed in Halo 3 so when the full release is here overall it should be a great game (and best graphics will be saved for campaign games). P.S. If you have a 360 but can't play Halo3 goto to market place and look in the redvsblue folder of videos to download the beta preview video.
drdeez "I did this because im tired of looking at those stupid posts from yall stupid fanboys talking about stuf yall dont even know about bla bla bla shut the F*** up and leave us smart buyer's alone and listen to us we are tryng to save you money thats all not freakin break your wallets" If I needed the extra bits you mentioned and bought them for the 360 I would still be paying less than the Europe release price of the PS3.
Daniel I checked the inquirer link and the writer is an idiot who should learn about games before writing, here is one example. "That bribe is usually lowered or no kickbacks per disk. If the studio that made Halo was not owned by MS..." if he did his research he would already know how this story goes as halo was not made by microsoft in the 1st place. Think I lie? OK why would Microsoft release an xbox exclusive title onto Apple MAC machines when they could have released it onto sony and make a huge wad of money from the sales? The answer is that it was written originally for the MAC and down the line Microsft bought the company which is why it is NOW an exclusive. Do all the inquirer writers talk as much cr@p as that guy? BTW Daniel this post is not a go at you.
I think FFXIII will stay as a PS3 Exclusive but then again FFXI online was a PS2 Exclusive and ended up not even making it onto the console. I wonder how the hard drive and Linux Package sold for the PS2, I never did check out the sales figures for that.
nvfigueiredo "Now... 1 - are there any doubts that the new PS3 version (without the Emotion Engine) will be placed everywhere?! Do you really think it will be an European exclusive?!?" I like this point, the thing is whatever happens I think it will be taken out anyway but you are all missing the point. BC doesn't matter with the March release it's paying more money than other countries that already have it that bothers us and yes Eclipse it is over $230 more than the USA and for godsake learn to type better as you type gibberish. Heres the UK and Aussie prices compared to the $600 price of the PS3 found via www.xe.com. 425.00 GBP = 832.135 USD 425.00 GBP = 1,059.07 AUD 1,000.00 AUD = 785.664 USD 1,000.00 AUD = 401.213 GBP 600.00 USD = 306.481 GBP 600.00 USD = 763.917 AUD There is a list and we in the UK are paying more than the Australians even. Even if we paid the US price of about £305 its still more expensive than a premium 360. I like sony so I am not putting them down (except their products have a low life span). Most I would pay for a PS3 would be about £329. PS3 are forgeting Halo 3 is near to their release day so expect cheaper 360 Halo bundles (at a guess). Those who can just about afford a PS3 and will buy 1 has to get even more money to buy a game for the system so thats another load of money. Remeber when the xbox came out it was £300 at launch? Well they saw the mistake and if you contacted microsft when they sent the apology letters out to people who had registered the machine got to choose a free "gift" like a controller or game etc to make up for the sudden price drop after the launch. Sony do not want to do the same thing as this will make people hate them even more than it seems they do now. At least make it seem reasonable like £360, he he he same price as its rivals name. So £360 plus a £40 game makes a nice round £400, affordable or just about for most people.
Thanks gamewhat for actually taking in what I said. The price I just used an online currency convertor and punched in 425 GPB to USD button to get the price. The costs of UK 360 consoles and the HD unit can be found at www.play.com, add the price and it comes under £425. To give proof of the pre order thing I would have to break into a store and still their PS3 pre order books and either post them to you or take pics and send them to you then find out if the wii/360 books exist and do the same if they have not been been tossed in the trash. The pic thing, well there are some on this site that showed the xbox vs 360 graphics with the same 360 game taken at the same point in the game to show the draw distances and things but dunno the actual http as I was browsing last year and as a browse I did not bother to write the link down thinking I would need it in the future but at the time it did give me a thought to do a google search for more and there came a few personal websites along with sites like this i.e happypuppy etc. The line up problem is easy to show, just check some online shops (I use play.com for personal shopping as its free delivery and cheaper than the shops). I have a problem with the *** sales aswell as it was videos on youtube, I preffer videos of press releases as text reports passed around the net bothers me as you cant ask questions back and such. I cannot give 100% on all things but at least I don't say FACT like I have seen on some pages (this forum), even when the "fact" is not at all true. I dunno if the UK PSN will be free tho, we always get done over by Sony. As for the 360 online price, I do not mind paying for it as its a very good service in my view, so good that (another article I read in the summer, I should start writing down http references) Mircrosoft was going to take them to court for copying the blade system and making it look very much the same.
Once again I will say this for the Sony fanboys Dojotiger and chamber303. People who are waiting the release of the PS3 have to pay $833.450 for a lower graded unit and in the UK if we want HD-DVD viewing we can buy the add on unit for the 360 for £120 which combined with the Premium 360 still costs less than the PS3. The Wii and the 360 had filled their pre order slots in days (busy places in hours) of knowing they can take the orders. PS3 release has been confirmed for a while now and well, there are are shops waiting for pre-orders and nobody wants to bother. I also heard a mention of 120k people buying a PS3 who do not play games just to watch bluray... well they must be a bit thick cos you can buy bluray players for less. As for the "why would you want to play old games on a next gen machine?". Well if its like the 360 for starters it smooths out some pixel edges and improves draw distances (proven in different sites with pics). Why bother keeping an old system out when you would rather save space and have slightly better graphics. Another point to Sony fanboys is that now the PS3 will have been out for a while when its released over here the game lineup is poor, it has had time to make a few decent games but has not... oh wait silly me companies do not writing games for the PS3 because its more awkward, they rather write games for the wii and 360 1st then rewrite for the PS3. I have noticed people (sony fanboys) keep saying "fact" after comparing the 360 and the PS3 but never show how its a fact, I guess its a fact because they THINK they know what they are on about with no evidence. I could fly to the home of sony and pick up a PS3 easy because even there the people are converting to 360 and even more the nintendo wii. Microsoft has finally got attention from the japs and I play a lot of em online. I am not a Microsoft fanboy by the way, I am a sega fanboy as they do make some of the best games (that I like). AMERICANS READ THIS BEFORE POSTING PLEASE. Some (not all) go on about EU/AUS moaning about B/C, WRONG. Some go on about us moaning about cost, WRONG. FOR GOD SAKE ITS BECAUSE WE WE ARE PAYING MORE FOR LESS ! ! ! ! ! Get it into your thick skulls. Some americans know why we are moaning, why can't all of you see that?
I hate people who just come out with stupid comments by half reading the forum, they say "do you really want to play PS1/2 games on a PS3?" That is not why we are moaning, we are moaning about paying more and those who talk about its cos of our tax, do we put the tax on australia and the rest of europe??? ERM NOOOOO. The game line up is so poor people in Sony Land (Japan) are not even buying many PS3's anymore. Here is the deal to anyone with no next gen console. Save £425 and get a PS3 OR Save £450 and buy a 360.... AND a Wii ! ! ! Please cut the "games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4" statements as some people may not even like thos games plus nintendo have their own exclusive game titles as does microsoft (who are buying companies like rare and licence rights like fifa), I said in an earlier post im not biassed as I am still buying PS2 games like FFXII and shin megami tensei series of Devil RPG. last tip, dont go by out of date articles, go by the latest press release videos for your info, even if its biassed you are getting the latest info from the horses (or in sony europes case a jackass's) mouth.
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