@ribstaylor1: why???, why does almost everyone think that a gtx 860M is so much better than a gtx 850M???

A gtx 850m is a gtx 860m, the only different is that the gtx 850m has ddr3 while the gtx 860m has gddr5 and yes, you can get a 850 with gddr5....

That said, almost any gtx on the market is better than a ps4/xbox one.

Now, some may have looked at benchmarks and seen that ps4... has more fps in a game than a gtx 850m, that's because the ps4/xbox ones settings is set to medium or low... or the game was not made for pc in the first place (ac unity).

That said, i have a laptop with a gtx 850m and there is no game that i can't run.