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[QUOTE="Rich3232"] And yet they still failed. I'm not saying they're incompetent, just pathetic if for all their little toys, they still didn't get a 19 year old who (probably) has no outside help. Rich3232

Well can you imagine how much worse it would be with out their "little toys".

If anything this means we should be spending more.

oh and we will do that by cutting funding will we?

And what do plan on using the extra money for (you better say defence or education or i will lose all hope for the world)?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Rich3232"] Helicopters, tanks, swat teams, pictures all over, and a couple shootouts, and the 19 year old is still out there. Sorry, but with how much we spend every year on defense and the patriot act, there really isn't much of an excuse. Rich3232

Well can you imagine how much worse it would be with out their "little toys".

If anything this means we should be spending more.

NEED NEWS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

osirisx3

The worst kind of troll.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I wonder what the criteria for earning water is.

worlock77

Not water, free water.

everybody will have water availabe so long as they pay taxes.

Free water is an incentive to those who go above and beyond government mandated duties.

And you say you want less politics?

Under an efficient technocratic system there should be no "politics" involved.

Add an incorrupt meritocracy and things should be simple and smooth.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Water should be controlled by the government, but it shouldn't be a "right".

Water should be free only if you earn it.

worlock77

I wonder what the criteria for earning water is.

Not water, free water.

everybody will have water availabe so long as they pay taxes.

Free water is an incentive to those who go above and beyond government mandated duties.

Water should be controlled by the government, but it shouldn't be a "right".

Water should be free only if you earn it.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

We have to cut funds from education, social programs etc, but we can buy missles for Israel.

Does not compute.

Aljosa23

So disappointing. Defense systems > health care funding

Well defence is more important than health care...by alot.

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Even still, I stand by my previous statement in that the process would be highly political. Corporations, government bureaucracies, large organizations in general are prone to it - throw in full-scale governance, you've the same sh!t, but orders of the magnitude greater. Really, the only inherent change the influence of the public - which is simply replaced by an inevitably hierarchical beauracratic game.

coolbeans90

This can all be solved if those in the government simply adhered to their own technocratic ideals as opposed to openly defying them like you suggest they would.

I actually mentioned earlier a number of ways that technocracy within given fields, even discounting quite serious conflicts within said fields, will invariably have conflicts of interests with other fields. That is before we throw real people in the mix. Moreover, there is a definite potential that the public in the loss of its power would ultimately suffer a la China.

These contradictions already exist in the current system except they are handled by anything but experts and we have been dealing with their mediocre results since washington. I hardly see how my system can be any less efficient than the current one.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="worlock77"]ran by "experts" in their respective fields Aljosa23