[QUOTE="VooDooPC"]I have played, "utter garbage", and Oblivion is not it. It may be far from perfect but please go play some more games before you throw meaningless insults towards great games. Go play Loki, Dungeon Lords, or Rage of Mages too see what real, "utter garbage", is.sSubZerOo

I stand by my claim its a dumbed down piece of garbage unmodded.. The sole fact everything is leveled and character devolpment means absolutly nothing turns it into a second rate piece of crap action game... There is only one line of quests with interesting alternatives.. Other that the dark brotherhood.. They are all generic crap with no real consquences nor challenge.. Thats of course if you have the misfortune of pickinga gimped skil that levels up too fast..

The sole fact that you have access to every skilla nd you can be a master to all of them gives you no replayability what so ever.. AND the mere fact that the story is generic garbage doesn't help it much either.. With such a huge landscape you would think exploring would be fun.. BUT IT IS NOT.. 99% of all the udngeons are generic garbage.. I might as well do the same dungeon over and over agian the first I come across because they will have the same dififculty as well as drops..

here's a novel idea.. if you already know you won't like it, then don't play it. and if you know you can do better... then stfu and design your own game that everyone and their mother will love instead crying on a forum about a game that you haven't played yet.