@Blood_Angel @cryofax Well to be honest, neither Sony or MS would win anything by dissalowing second hand games. They get their money either way.

Essentially it was some publishers that cared about 2nd hand game too much, and I think MS tried to stay in favor with them.

Essentially the move of Sony pretty much release the steam that build up doing both companies a favor and shutting this Publishers up.

@cryofax @blue900 In the end at least we consumers won, without actually doing anything :P

@GR1mL0cK @inextremo88 @vegasdan30 All you people stick on DDR as if it's magical, shared games are gonna look the same.. If anything it's the shaders that will do a difference. We are talking of a difference of a nv gtx780 vs 770 pretty much; like 10% max (thinking of pcs)!
MS is doing something there with the eSRAM buffer, I don't know what, but I bet it will essentially close the gap to a marginal difference from DDR5 to DDR3; Plus they do this weird prebuffering of hd graphics on the cloud...

@GR1mL0cK @inextremo88 @vegasdan30 I would rather say this is more important "with 1152 shader processors against the Xbox One’s 768".
That't day and night performance difference if true.
Regarding the GDDR battle, let's see how the buffer esram will work, makes me curious.

On the other hand I still believe that all shared games are going to look identical on both consoles..
And a lot comes down to art design team's skill, rather than raw hardware performance.

@epicgameresearc All in all both consoles are gonna run same games on the same fps, and again we are going to compare the shadows if black is blacker on PS4 or X1.. Same was said for the ps3vsxbox.....

Don't support any system; if I would buy one it probably would be the ps4 due to pricing; still fun that we still try to figure what is better even though we all know they gonna perform the same :)

@Sun-Tzu-GE @Splincir @CrouchingWeasel Was there an official statement on that or do you pull it out of your ass, cause all GTA's as of today have been released on pc in a later time and usually with better visuals too.. Most of them weren't announced for pc in the first days either.. I guess by the time the PS4 and X1 versions will be made available PCs will follow..

@vegasdan30 Tha's kinda true. On the hardware side I don't think PS4 has any upper hand. It's more the user friendliness they showed that put them ahead.

@Splincir @stickiey @inextremo88 @FlyinBrian35 I knew the cpu suports the instructions set, on other hand wasnt sure about the use of 64bit for the software..

Good to know.. My pc is getting happier and happier.. :P

@FlyinBrian35 Cool thing; finally we can expect some well optimized pc ports ... :P Hail to the x86 architecture, booh that it isn't x64.. :P

@Splincir @Gamernametaken @Cloud_imperium That never is gonna happen. Both consoles already relly on pc architecture for their next gen systems. What would differentiate them from a computer if they would allow for pc peripherials? Especially thinking about how much ms cares about kinekt and voice recognition..