i wasnt really that impressed reach graphically. i mean it looks no doubt, but it's really not the huge leap forward from halo 3 that i was expecting, especially in terms of framerate. reach's framerate is almost as bad as the firt mass effect. overall it's a good looking game, but it certainly doesnt hold up to other recent like uncharted 2 or mass effect. i was playing killzone 2 the other, and im still blown away by how good that game looks. KZ2 is a year and a half old, and still looks better.