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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Where is Final Fantasy? :evil: :P.. i only play JRPG's :P

nofriekinlemons

well then you should change that about yourself, boy.

Pfffft.. WTF "boy" do you think jrpg are only for boys wrpg's suck compared to jrpg's for they have better stories and characters than any wrpg out there so

GTFO boy!!

lol, no way. im sorry but most of the wrpgs out there have stories and charactersthat are equally if not more compelling than their japanese counterparts. I find it sad that more japanese developers havent embraced the two tools of immersion wrpg makers know so well, they're called REAL TIME COMBAT and FIRST PERSON PERSPECTIVE.

i have a very large amount of respect for square enixbecauseof theiramazing back catalogue of games like crono trigger and FFVII. But im sorry to say that Japanese Developers havent changed theirformula for YEARS. and for that reason im sorry to say, but the JRPG genre has gotten STAIL.

There has been little to no innovationfrom JRPGs in the last 5 to 7 years, and thats why we are getting games like the most recent star ocean, lost odyssey and blue dragon. Games that feel like a re-hashing of old ideasand offer nothing new.

There are exceptions. Persona 4 was excellent and fresh, and when final fanatasy went real time with its combat system, i was impressed. Not since then has the jrpg genre made any significant change to its aging formula.

A typical list from someone that haven't played anything from1990 to 2002, the golden age of the western RPGs. KOTOR is the only real RPG from that list. Mass Effect is a third person shooter with some very good RPG elements, Oblivion and Fallout 3 are action games with weak RPG elements. I haven't played Fable II, but the first one was an action-adventure game, not a RPG. I'm not saying those games are bad, I really enjoyed Mass Effect and Fallout 3, but both were poor RPG-wise. :D

RyuRanVII

Hey, theres this little thing i think you should know about. its called innovation. Ever heard of it? well, you see, thats whats been happening to the wrpg genre since 2001. Its been changing, and melding with other genres. So im sorry, but you are wrong. Fallout 3 and Oblivion are absolutely RPGs. there is leveling, collecting, and most importantly, ROLE-PLAYING.