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#2 justis_r
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[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. rimnet00

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.

Man someone has no life to where they copy out of a book.

........ You mean... The Qur'an? The compilation that defines Islam?

Well I think you left out quite a bit of info there skidrow.
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#3 justis_r
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[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

soren008

Beyond delusional ....

Dude your the one who is delusional.

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

Pffft I guess you're right. I'm wrong. Just Kidding. How about you go live in another country cause you hate America after all. I mean right?

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

Ok then go have tea and crumpets and sing God Save the Queen. And ya it does sound like you hate America. And no ur not right in anyway shape or form.
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#4 justis_r
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.SpaceMoose

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

He probably doesn't but it's apparent you do. HAHAHA...................HA

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

Based on all of the posts he has made in this thread, it is readily apparent that he believes whatever nonsense he sees on the internet or in chain emails, even when it has long since been discredited, so long as it validates him being an ignorant and intolerant ass.

OHH those are some big words for ya. Don't hurt yourself now.
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#6 justis_r
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[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

He probably doesn't but it's apparent you do. HAHAHA...................HA

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

I well I don't think I am.... Are you? Never mind it doesn't matter. It's obvious that me and BuxBoy are right. The proof is all there. YOU are just looking in the wrong places.

Obvious based on evidence? Obvious due to your shared ignorance with BuxBoy?

Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong.
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#7 justis_r
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[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Oh, so you are saying a women can freely convert to Christianity, or Judaism in Iran today, with no repercussions?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

Google: 'denial' and 'ignorance'

No need. I can already recognize it in your replies.

Oooooooooo......
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#8 justis_r
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[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

He probably doesn't but it's apparent you do. HAHAHA...................HA

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

I well I don't think I am.... Are you? Never mind it doesn't matter. It's obvious that me and BuxBoy are right. The proof is all there. YOU are just looking in the wrong places.
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[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.SylentButDeadly

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

It is legal for a Christian to be put to death in some Moozlim countries. Dont talk about having a choice. Muslims believe that women are property.

Ya I saw a guy who was muslim walking around in the local market telling his wife to do stuff.
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[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

He probably doesn't but it's apparent you do. HAHAHA...................HA