why can't they take the time to finish a game before they release it. what's wrong with these people. but on a different note, pacific fighters looks to be particularly fantastics. i played the IL-2 demo and found it entertaining though my computer didn't handle it very well. i think that those are some fantastic looking games, with wonderfull graphics and gameplay. the multi player is supposed to be especially entertaining. but have you guys seen the new battlefield video, it makes the game that much harder to wait for, why oh why am i always waiting for the next best thing, it's torture, look at the physics, and the lighting, the wonderful cockpit views that all the new vehicles offer, wow this game looks to good to be true, just like halflife2. why must i wait. my new computer will be here this weekend, i'll have to satisfy myself with doom3, and farcry, and pandora tommorrow, and bf vietnam. oh the agony. imagine, this game will be ten times that of joint ops. oh the possibilities.