Well... I don't think the 360 is in its prime yet. Sure there are great games but nothing as of this time and date to make people give on ps2 and xbox.

There are a lot of factors waying in right now.

First is the price of this console worldwide. There is no standard for pricing on the 360. When it comes to price, look at uk compared to NA....its way to much for people to JUMP IN.

Second is the competition is deeper then 360 vs ps3....you gotta remember there are people who enjoy the Wii and its price point.

Some people might of been willing to get a 360 but for price of wii and games that equals a 360.

Third is and I don't blame people is all the hardware issues. A friend of mine just suffered that fate last night. Bought his console when gears came out, lasted almost a year for himbut still even with teh 3y warrenty MS offers to me its still not good enough.

Personally what they should of did is partner up with a retailer on this warrenty and allow people to exchange system only at the retailer. No one but MS themselves still get hurt this way. The wait times for a new 360 would be no more or much less. The retailers themselves don't even get hurt really if they keep enough in stock because anything returned to them gets credited back from the company that ships the product, in this case MS which loses anyway on either repair labour or new console. As long as the retailer has enough in stock to sell additional ones then its all good.

I know I would be super pissed if I had to wait anymore then 5 business days to get a console back from day I placed my call.

And the last reason why it isnt selling well is the real special people in life that hold on to brand loyalty with SONY.

Some people actually convince themselves that because the ps1 and ps2 were da bombbb they automatically assume the ps3 will be. No one in their right mind could play both systems and say the ps3 is better when it is at best equal if not worse.

Just my thoughts on it

Well its like this.

As PC Hardware progresses our consoles seem so out of date more and more each day.

Holiday 2009 would be a great time to release a new console, however to win over the hearts of millions a few things have to happen.

Most 360 add-ons have tobe able to be used on this bad boy. Controllers, wifi.....etc Also b/c has to be standard

I enjoy consoles just as much as pc's but if I have to buy everything all over again im just gonna stick with pc for my games.

I have no problem buying new hardware such as the console to have a more up to date system, but in all honesty no one could justify it being ok to spend money on extra controllers or wifi all over again.....be liek me having to buy a new keyboard and mouse each time I upgrade my pc.

I figure in 08 I will buy anywheres from 25-35 games according to ign's release date list.

If no b/c on new system then I might as well stick with 360.

I started on the NES.

Until the N64 came out it was mostly an NES/PC combo. PC is only complicated if you don't ever try to learn. Most people just get someone else to do stuff for them.

nyoroism

LOL That is so true. If people can put together Lego then they can put together a pc....as long as you have the right screw driver.

A 20 minute session on wikipedia would tell people almost everything they need to know on how everything works and what everything means.

Then its all common sense from there.

Sad part is on their site you can buy 80gb with motorstorm and enchanted arms i think is the other offer for $20 more.

Ahhh the real smart consumers went on a frenzy today

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]What kind of person goes out of their way to convince a random family into buying their system of choice?Tiefster

Its the best thing you could do for someone, some people are not like most of us on here and know every little detail there is to know about a particular system.

I agree with TC soon as the PS3 and 360 get in more homes this year the Wii will be stuck in last trying to hit each one of them with a wiimote and byebyebye Wii.

Its still coming they had beta last month in korea on pc version

I cant wait for this game

Heavenly Sword...j/k

WOW for me, 12days 17hours(total time)to get to lvl 70, 1 month almost in real life

Ok the error code does it have japaneese writing and stuff.

Anyway im positive your suffering a power drain to the 360, the intercooler is a nice idea but fails in its attempt.

It drains the power from your system creating an error code and best yet because its third party will void warrenties on your system, so if you continue to use this thing and your system eventually dies out please remember to tell MS nothing about an intercooler.

I almost purchased this thing until my customer care rep at my local eb told me a story about his first 360 and the intercooler thing and he warned me about plugging it in to a power bar saying that big brick is already a surge protector and a power bar somehow alters the power flow to teh 360 resulting in bad things.

He told me about his new setup and I do the same thing and my 360 runs pretty cool, all I do is keep it flat away from any other heat source and have a little tiny 3" fan right beside the side they want you stand the sucker up on and it blows cool air through.

Does the error say something like error 74

Do you have an intercooler?

Do you plug your 360 into a powerbar?