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I think the issue with that moment, like someone else said, is that there's no way around it; conversely, however, it is meant to be that big moment in the game that players really remember and really connect with. It's meant to floor the player and if there is a way to get out of that action, that moment would not have any bearing on the player at all.

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I'd say some of these moments were also intended to highlight the hopelessness that is sometimes found in life or death decisions. Games like Mass Effect have always done us the disservice (in almost all cases) of offering players a route out of trouble where justice prevails and innocence is spared. I think the reality of RPing is that we have intentions about our decisions, but the reality of life is that decisions have unintended consequences. Sometimes these consequences can impact us deeply so that the person we become down the line is miles away from the person we wanted to be when we made that decision so long ago. I think the Line illustrates this idea well, even if it does at times railroad the player into experiencing it.

I think Roose Bolton from GoT best summarizes the Line's theme of hopelessness when he says "The high road is very pretty, but you'll have a hard time marching your army down it."

Well said. I agree that it is meant to portray how our decisions can have adverse, in this case unwanted, effects and those effects can lead to a completely different road in life because of that decision that we made. I think it also gives a glimpse to many who have never, and will never, be in battle just how the life of a soldier, specifically a commander, can change without a moment's notice and how it can spiral and go down the drain before you realize it.

You definitely should try it if you haven't gotten the chance. I absolutely loved it. The gameplay, itself, is ok; it's not going to be as fluid as Socom (just to reference a third-person shooter), but the story is the main attraction and is definitely worth playing through.

I loved the game. I agree with what a lot of you are saying about that one moment in the game that is supposed to be a turning point in the players' psyche.

I think the issue with that moment, like someone else said, is that there's no way around it; conversely, however, it is meant to be that big moment in the game that players really remember and really connect with. It's meant to floor the player and if there is a way to get out of that action, that moment would not have any bearing on the player at all.

[spoiler] If the player listens to what Walker says (your character) he talks about how there is really no way around using the white phosphorous on the army because, at this point, his team believes that the 33rd is AWOL and turned into a governing force in Dubai rather than carrying out their orders so they are then considered hostile and an enemy. Although phosphorous is not supposed to be used in warface anymore (treated as a chemical weapon) this is a 3-man squad's only option for trying to save the refugees from the 33rd as well as have the squad make it out alive. The point is, that if you agree to do the action it suggests from the get-go because you see that there's no other way to go about freeing the refugees because they have a freaking army compared to your little squad, then the moment hits home like it's supposed to. I don't know how you end up doing the same thing either way you go, but I think the whole scene was well-delivered in the greater scheme of things and was one of the "oh my God. I can't believe what I'm seeing" moments I've had in the 23 years I've played games. Just my opinion. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]It's more a matter of history than actually being a natural trait. Lots of black people were slaves and had other problems with white people in society in the past because of their skin color, so it's a more sensitive thing to talk about. Even if your intensions are racist. You never saw people being slaves for being short or having a weird voice.NaveedLife

yep.  its stupid though that people today will still bring it up all the time and play that card.  You were not a slave and I was not your owner, lets all just leave it in the past ok?  

It doesn't sem to be taking off for all the new dating sites that open up every 3 seconds. Have you ever tried ne a got succes? How many members does one usually have? It always seemed to be a dangerous concept to me, but a friend of mine wants to ceate his own and says it's quite a money maker, even though I barely ever hear much from anyone of these sites and I don't think any have had more than 100,00 members max, don;t see the money there.ImJESUS-PROam

I see that @LostProphet knows what it's about as well. I was on OkCupid for about 4 months a couple of years ago. I met many many different women and dated quite a few, but the objective is to meet someone you are compatible with right? OKC is free and it's great for meeting people if you use it right (i.e. fill in as much information as you can about yourself so that it can match you up with people who are compatible). I met someone on there after 4 months and have been with her since 2010 when we met. We got married 2 weeks ago and I couldn't have asked for a better soulmate. You all can think this is bullshit or that it's corny, and it may be, but I've never been happier, neither has she, and this site is what allowed two people who lived 2.5 hours away from one another to meet and it turned out amazing.

Best of luck to you @ImJESUS-PROam. I hope you find what you're looking for. Give OkCupid a try.