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@Jdzspace: Oh, I get your point. Do you get mine (now that it is buried under paragraphs and threads of impertinent drivel)? I got one- how about just play what you like and be happy. You are clearly defensive about something I said. Regardless, just enjoy whatever games you like on whatever systems you like- and I'll do the same. Gezzuschrist, a game's forum where one gets drawn into political arguements...WTF! Accusing me of "rheroric?" Hell, you even sound like a politician. Just remember one thing, to win North America is the same as winning the so called "Console War." North America is and always has been the most important market to every console manufacturer. I'll leave you to figure out why.

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@dilldoser: Uncharted 4 is a definant system seller to me. No excuse that game hasn't been released yet.

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@troll_elite: Not likely. These systems will be around for ten years. Too much invested in them to be otherwise.

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@Jdzspace: Xenophobia? HAHAHA. I don't think so. Your prattle has become mundane and subjective. This argument is over. I'm not trying to convince anyone and you're free to believe what you like. Just arguing with me that " Sony doesn't have to pay anyone" discredits your argument. Maybe you need be writing in the Capcom or Activision forum. By the way, you got it wrong- try to keep up with the news if your going to blatantly defend your maladjusted beliefs. This is exactly the kind of blind consumerism that has allowed articles with this headline to get posted. By the way, you are probably unaware that China isn't doing so great...and you're comparing India's ecomony to America's? HAHAHAHAHA!

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@TheGreatOne023: Well said. Too bad though, I really would like to justify buying one. But if Sony continues to have this type of unbridled success with PS4, then PS4 might go down as one of the best selling consoles with the worst library of games ever made. A profitable marketing contradiction.

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@Jdzspace: Yeah, America is one country of many, yet, it remains the most vibrant economy in the world. I understand what your saying, Xbox Division was in the red for more years than not. However, if I made my point clear- companies make investments based on future prognoses/results, not wholly past history. It is a risk that has paid off as the Division is now successful. I would perceive that it be common sense to deem anything that is a failure, or a potential failure, as not being worth investing in, yet billions have been poured into the Xbox brand this generation alone. The fact that Xbox brand is making Microsoft a profit justifies this. If this profit can be long term sustainable where cost will be recouped we shall see, but I believe that is why the investments were made in the first place. Against your point, Sony can go ahead and pay off third parties so gamers can go ahead and have timed exclusivity to extra maps or the like, Microsoft would rather pour that money into first party development- something Sony would like to do, but can't completely afford right now (and the games' catalogs for either system more than prove). Lastly, if the "20 year game your referring to is Halo 5, I would consider that another win for Microsoft. Relying on Activation as an answer to 343 Studios product is a losing battle, as Battlefront and Black Ops 3 are widely considered "meh." This, to my point, is the advantage when a group controls the quality of its product, thus, a first party product (something Sony is sorely lacking in this year).

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@Jdzspace: Selling well in America is a good thing. It is what every manufacturer in the civilized world hopes to achieve. Microsoft would not have invested billions in their Xbox and Games Division if it was anything less than a success. The entire world may not be sold, but enough people like Microsoft products enough to make the business viable and profitable- and that is all that matters (not "my penis is larger than yours").

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@Mr_Mark_Legion I don't think he cares. He's already does his job to make Xbox One the success that is is.