okay! i am not one to take sides with this argument because its just very stupid in my eyes the only difference is games and add ons which they rip each other off on anyway, i use a 360 because its cheaper and i love the games it has tht the ps3 doesnt but ive also played alot of ps3 and like alot of games that it has, if haters of the 360 think its **** wait till the slim comes out then you will have lost your most valid points -noise&red ring- 360 is just as good as ps3, so chill out and just let people play which ever they want. peace out.