just thought i would say my piece on the new 360, i think its great! new cooling system means no red ring and built in wifi means no annoying add on :) also its quieter and if like me you have encountered the problem of playing your xbox at night and it being too loud for your parents it will be no more ! i have heard that a trade will be allowed where you can trade in your old xbox and buy the new at a much lowered price if this is true i think its a brilliant idea and will be doing so, last but not least the new kinect project is supposed to be much more adaptable for the new xbox which is cool but i think irrelevant as i probably wont be using it, seems quite cool but motion sensors? not what my type of gaming is about.