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#1 pooz13
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I've found different, as the price difference over the Phenom IIs is rarely worth it more than the performance increases you could get from more investment in better video card(s).smc91352
Yeah, that's true. When I said if you can afford it, I meant if it's within your budget all other things being equal (or roughly equivalent, re: mobo), then it's worth the extra cash. However, looking at FPS/dollar then I expect a high-end X4 would come out on top - definitely if, like you say, you sink the saved cash into the graphics department. Don't want to come across as an Intel fanboi, I just think it's worth it given the increased performance outside of gaming, if you're likely to do any other CPU-intensive tasks; plus it's lower on the ol' power draw (but when you've got a hunking great GPU, even just idling, I guess that's less of an issue). With AMD, you get some future-compatibility, too, since they don't force you to migrate to a new socket for every new CPU generation (oh hello LGA1155/2011).
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#2 pooz13
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the i5-750 has been called the best single-card gaming cpu. When you get more cards, the Phenom IIs would be better. And the i7 900s would be best.smc91352
Yeah, my bad, was forgetting about P55's one x16/x8x8 PCIe 2.0 lane(s). I'd still argue that for most people (how many have 3+ cards?), regardless of motherboard choice, Phenoms are excellent for gaming but the 750 is the best performance/price choice, if it is within your budget.
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#3 pooz13
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[QUOTE="smc91352"]I would rather have an 800 series i7s over a Core 2 Quad. ... And lastly, I would rather have an i7-980X over a Phenom II X6.

Yeah, because that is exactly what I was saying. Oh, wait, "If you can afford it I'd still go i5 750 (or better, but then things get rather pricey)." Also, for gaming the X6 is not even almost worth the price. EDIT: Okay, well I thought it was a direct plug at my i5 750 (or above) suggestion. Sorry. And each to their own, but I'd pick an equivalently-priced I7 over the X6 any day... But then, I rarely encode video, or do anything that is highly threaded. And an X4 over a 750? A 750 over an i7 800 (okay, if you're taking price into account that makes sense...) I don't get it. To get back on topic (I feel we have taken a sidestep, here), if it's just for gaming then a decent Phenom II X4 will do you fine, OP.
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#4 pooz13
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Well I live in the UK and from my experience, in the budget sector, you're better off getting something prebuilt. It just isn't cost effective for you get the parts yourself (it's the OS that kills - if he already has a copy of Windows or whatever, then maybe it will be worth it. You can't get Win7 for less than about 75 over here, and that's for the upgrade version). Also, what sort of gaming will he be doing? I mean, for 375 you're basically looking at the bottom end of graphics cards there, if not just IGP. EDIT: This is GBP, obviously. I get an HTML error if I try and put pound signs in my post, for some reason. All that aside, novatech.co.uk overclockers.co.uk and aria.co.uk are all good places to look if you want to spec him something. Aria will probably be cheapest, but in my experience their customer service is very hit or miss.
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#5 pooz13
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Yeah, as above. If you can afford it I'd still go i5 750 (or better, but then things get rather pricey). Between an i5 system and the one posted above, though (assuming all else the same or equivalent), you're only going to be missing literally a few FPS is most games, and you save a tidy penny in the process. Would point out that if you intend to do much other than gaming, then the extra cash for an Intel setup is probably worth it (IMO). EDIT: Seems the guy above missed out a gfx card. What res will you be playing at, how recent will the games likely be, and what sort of quality settings would you like to run at?
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#6 pooz13
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Yeah, if it's between those two then the Intel one will serve you better.
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#7 pooz13
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This is just my two cents, but I got a gaming laptop for college and I do the odd bit of gaming on it, but not a whole lot; the problem is that, being large-ish, it really isn't that portable - I might as well have got myself a new desktop, since I have never really had a need to remove it from my room. I understand that, if you go with the method above, you can obviously get something slimmer, since you only really need a decent CPU, but I'd imagine you'll be looking in the 15"-17" range. If it was me, I'd just stick with what you've got now, making as much use of the 470 as you can. Then if you get a bit more cash down the road, you can always upgrade the mobo, CPU and RAM (the 470 should last for a while, unless you always need to be on the bleeding edge). Obviously, this all depends on your situation. If you really need the portability, then you should go with the laptop. If not, I don't think its worth the performance sacrifice.
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#8 pooz13
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I dont think you could play most source games well though.KLONE360
I'm fairly confident an 8800GTX will play most source games just fine, although you might find the CPU holds you back a bit. I use a laptop now, and have a console for gaming, but the old PC at home which my parents still use (I'm at Uni) has an AMD Athlon XP 1500+, and an ATI 9600XT (yeah, lol). I mean, that CPU came out in 2001, and that thing can play HL2 @ 800x600. Okay, it can get kinda choppy if you're not indoors, but it's definitely playable. What OP is looking at would definitely be good enough for at least HL2, if not some of the later source games.
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#9 pooz13
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The 3450 is better.
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#10 pooz13
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So with the graphics card, would the latest in the geforce 7 series be alright? Like the geforce 7950 for example.

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Well, if you can find one, perhaps. I'm not sure, the 7 series is pretty old tech now. I'd suggest an 8800 as was suggested above, and a RAM upgrade. At 800x600, that should do you fine. EDIT: The 8800GTX is the top 8800, btw, whereas I believe the top 7950 was the GT.