[QUOTE="jliebel"][QUOTE="MoneyGa"]

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-62309.aspx

360 AAA For good

MoneyGa

You mean PC/360 :)

Stop hideing behind the pc and show me one decent ps3 game.

College Hoops 2k7

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

They're not toys- they are consoles. :|

mjarantilla

Keep telling yourself that as you shop in the "PS3/360 Games" aisles of Best Buy or EBGames and see yourself picking up the same games as the 12 year old kid standing next to you.

According to the ESA, the average age of the most frequent game buyer is38 years old. In 2007, 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers were over the age of 18.

Game buyers. Not game players. I can bet you that those 38 year old buyers often have a 10-15 year old player standing next to them salivating.

Wrong again. Also according to the ESA the average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for12 years.

Actually:

For Console Gamers...

* Forty percent of most frequent game players are under eighteen years old.
* Thirty-five percent of most frequent game players are between 18 and 35 years old.
* Twenty-five percent of most frequent game players are over 35 years old.

So 60% of the most frequent gamers are over the age of 18. Thank you for helping my arguement.

And 40% of the most frequent gamers are still children. No matter how you spin it, it's still obvious that kids make up the biggest marketing demographic.

How can they be the biggest demographic if they don't even constitute a majority? In addition of those frequent gamers under 18 how many are kids? (I don't consider anyone over the age of 14 a kid, especially here in Texas were they can be charged as an adult at that age).

[QUOTE="ramey70"]The simple meaning of a toy according to Webster is "something for a child to play with". When I was 9 my dad bought me a pump action 410 gauge shotgun and I could use it whenever I wanted to kill nutrea in some of our stock tanks. According to marajntilla a shotgun is toy.mjarantilla

Sure, why not? If that's the definition you want to use for "toy," then video games are still definitely toys. And it's not "according to me" if you pulled that definition out of the dictionary.

But a child can play with anything. So I guess everything is a toy, even socks.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]The simple meaning of a toy according to Webster is "something for a child to play with". When I was 9 my dad bought me a pump action 410 gauge shotgun and I could use it whenever I wanted to kill nutrea in some of our stock tanks. According to marajntilla a shotgun is toy.Jandurin

Oh it was definitely for enjoyment. It was much cheaper and effective for him to just poison them.

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

They're not toys- they are consoles. :|

mjarantilla

Keep telling yourself that as you shop in the "PS3/360 Games" aisles of Best Buy or EBGames and see yourself picking up the same games as the 12 year old kid standing next to you.

According to the ESA, the average age of the most frequent game buyer is38 years old. In 2007, 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers were over the age of 18.

Game buyers. Not game players. I can bet you that those 38 year old buyers often have a 10-15 year old player standing next to them salivating.

Wrong again. Also according to the ESA the average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for12 years.

Actually:

For Console Gamers...

* Forty percent of most frequent game players are under eighteen years old.
* Thirty-five percent of most frequent game players are between 18 and 35 years old.
* Twenty-five percent of most frequent game players are over 35 years old.

So 60% of the most frequent gamers are over the age of 18. Thank you for helping my arguement.

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]The toy hall of fame...how appropriate.mjarantilla

The 360 and PS3 are toys, too, y'know.

Sure you do. And yes, they are. Toys are products made for personal entertainment and leisure, and sometimes competition.

By that definiton a set of top of the line golf clubs and a deer rifle are toys.

I guess I should've specified "personal home entertainment."

I love when people move goalposts on this board when proven wrong.

Does it matter? My definition still encompasses all home consoles AND all toys. Until you can successfully identify a set of qualities about home consoles that make them mutually exclusive from all other toys, I'm still right.

Actually, neither of us would be right as each definition is merely our quantitative opinion of an abstract idea.

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

They're not toys- they are consoles. :|

mjarantilla

Keep telling yourself that as you shop in the "PS3/360 Games" aisles of Best Buy or EBGames and see yourself picking up the same games as the 12 year old kid standing next to you.

According to the ESA, the average age of the most frequent game buyer is38 years old. In 2007, 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers were over the age of 18.

Game buyers. Not game players. I can bet you that those 38 year old buyers often have a 10-15 year old player standing next to them salivating.

Wrong again. Also according to the ESA the average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for12 years.

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]The toy hall of fame...how appropriate.mjarantilla

The 360 and PS3 are toys, too, y'know.

Sure you do. And yes, they are. Toys are products made for personal entertainment and leisure, and sometimes competition.

By that definiton a set of top of the line golf clubs and a deer rifle are toys.

I guess I should've specified "personal home entertainment."

I love when people move goalposts on this board when proven wrong.