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#1 renegadeds
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In fact, after doing a bit of research, my options are now the Samsung listed in my original post, the Toshiba in my original post, and this Toshiba:

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=355461&tab=specification#spec

It's the model up from the one in my first post. It's the same size, but has 3 HDMI inputs instead of 2, supports 1080p, and has a CR of 3500:1 instead of 1000:1. Also if buying from Comet it includes an Onkyo sound system.

Obviously if it's not worth the extra £300 on that TV, I would go for one of the other 2. Just throwing that one in there ;)

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[QUOTE="renegadeds"]

I'm currently in the market for an LCD HDTV - I want to avoid Plasma due to the problem with burn-in (I know it's getting less and less, but I want to protect my investment).

The TV will be used primarily for 360 gaming, with an hour or two of standard arial TV viewing (as in a normal signal, not HD) each night. I will also watch movies on the TV, currently on the standard 360 but soon using the HDDVD drive. I only have the 360 connected (no DVD player, I use the 360) and audio is not a problem because using the VGA cable I connect the audio to an amp and speaker system.

I have around £900 to spent on the TV, and have been looking at the following models.

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=318019&tab=specification

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=355941&tab=specification

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=364045&tab=specification

Any recommendations based on experiences with the sets, and what I want to use it for?

GalvatronType_R


This one's a bit tricky since the Sony LCD doesn't list all of its stats, not even CR (which is probably an LCD's most important stat) and none list how many of each connection each LCD has.

That being said, it's a tossup between the Toshiba and the Samsung. While the Samsung has better CR and connectivity, the Toshiba is five inches bigger. Determine if you want more connections and slightly better picture quality vs. a bigger image and there's your winner. Before buying, just like I tell everyone else, if possible, go to the store and try out both.

The Toshiba has 2 HDMI inputs, and one of each other input. The Samsung has 1 HDMI and one of the others. Also, Samsung's Contrast Ratio is always a sort of fabrication. They use static tests rather than dynamic tests (or vice versa I cant remember) so that they can boast a better CR. Sony don't list their CR at all on any UK site as far as I know. So is the Samsung a much better Picture Quality? It's the quality I'm after to be honest.
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I'm currently in the market for an LCD HDTV - I want to avoid Plasma due to the problem with burn-in (I know it's getting less and less, but I want to protect my investment).

The TV will be used primarily for 360 gaming, with an hour or two of standard arial TV viewing (as in a normal signal, not HD) each night. I will also watch movies on the TV, currently on the standard 360 but soon using the HDDVD drive. I only have the 360 connected (no DVD player, I use the 360) and audio is not a problem because using the VGA cable I connect the audio to an amp and speaker system.

I have around £900 to spent on the TV, and have been looking at the following models.

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=318019&tab=specification

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=355941&tab=specification

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=364045&tab=specification

Any recommendations based on experiences with the sets, and what I want to use it for?

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#5 renegadeds
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Looks really good, I just wish they would get rid of that mud because it really does make it look cheap and plastic.
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I'm no fanboy, but these made me chuckle.
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#7 renegadeds
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Love it - more please!
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HuusAsking

Thank you! Finally a good answer.
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A good answer because it completely agrees with you?

I also think that 1080p is overkill for gaming. However, gaming isn't the only thing that can be done on an HDTV, is it? In fact, most people would say that gaming is the minimal thing they do on their TV - SD or HD. I use a HDTV, and went back to a SDTV recently. I couldn't see who I was shooting at, couldn't see the variation in the maps, couldn't see clearly in shadow - you name it, everything was wrong with SD. I think SD is fine, until you get used to HD. I can't go back at all now I'm afraid.

The price of HDTV is dropping significantly, enough so to fall into many consumers price range. It will come down further, which is why I'm waiting to invest in a bigger HDTV. However, it is staggering how much of a difference it makes in high end or action games - Gears, Splinter Cell, Graw - all look massively better on HDTV. Just because YOU can't find a use for it, doesn't mean everyone else can't either.

Oh, and about you being on a higher gamerscore than him - here is a quick lesson for you. Those points mean absolutely NOTHING about how good you are at games. NOTHING. ZERO. So him being behind you means? NOTHING. It's very annoying when people are like 'yeah Im better than you, my gamerscore is higher!'. They don't mean a single thing.

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#9 renegadeds
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Basically if we assumed you have a monitor, a spare tower, a spare hard drive, and a spare DVDROM and all the accessories, for a good PC with the following it would run like so:
CPU: AMD64 X2 3800+ AM2 $148.99
MOBO: MSI K9N nForce 550 $73.49
Memory:  Kingston DDR2 400 512x2 (1GB) $119.99 (probably need 2GB)
Video: XFX GeForce 8800GTS $489.99

Total: $832.46
which is not too bad considering you now have graphical capabilities that are 2X a PS3
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OK, so if that was the case (which it isn't - assuming people have all that lying around in the first place is a lot to assume) it would mean that I have graphics capabilities 2x the PS3. But what is the use if I can't take advantage of that? Far Cry was a poor game - Crytek do not have a good record, or base to start on. I already said I'm absolutely NOT excited about Crysis - it just appears to be Far Cry with polish.

It's like having two cars which look exactly the same, same colour, same style, etc etc. One of them can do 300mph top speed, the other can do 200mph top speed. The 300mph top speed car is £800k. The 200mph top speed car is 300k (in relation to PS3 costing £425 and a TOP spec PC costing £1000). Which would you want to get? Faster car, right? However, how many roads do you know that you can do 300mph on? Think about legally, too. What's the point in having 1/3 extra power and speed, if you will never be able to take advantage of it? Crysis is the one game that has superb graphics, but as of yet nothing else can match it - meaning for the extra money spent for all the capabilities, you still only have one game to take advantage of it anyway. By the time games come out that can cast Crysis aside, the PC you bought to run Crysis will be old news, new components will be avilable, current components will be obsolete, etc etc. At that point, it will still be cheaper to buy the next Playstation or Xbox and play the entire 'next gen' of games, then to buy a cutting edge set of components again.

I have NOTHING against PC gaming - however, games that require a whole new set of hardware is just asking for trouble. Splinter Cell Double Agent requires pretty cutting edge machines to run it at the moment, so what are people with out of date machines supposed to think? 'Yeah, I'll spend $600 on a computer update to run SPDA', or 'Wait a minute, there is a 360 with SPDA for $400'.

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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="reilo"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="kriptonzz"]If I were to buy a PC capable of playing Crysis right now, how much? Plus the game? Eh doesn't matter. I'm not a big fan of keyboard and mouse, regardless of it's "present" superiority for an FPS.

At full details, in DX9.

7800GTX - $249 @ Newegg.com
AMD Dual core or Intel equivalent - either the 3800 DC $150 @ Newegg.com, or the Core 2 Duo $230 @ Newegg.com.
1.5 gig of RAM. Could be anywhere from $80 to$150.

So that's around $600.




That's assuming you have everything else - monitor, tower with a good PSU, hdd, keyboard & mouse, dvd-rom, soundcard, decent sound system, etc. And you still do not get the full graphical capability of the game because you only listed DX9 specs when the game is made to run on DX10.

Besides, EA is looking to buyout Crytek, so Crysis might be the last good game that the company puts out. If EA buys them out, say bye bye to innovation and a good library of games from Crytek.

That was a rumour. EA has no plans to buy Crytek.

And the DX10 specs are:

Windows Vista
DX10 card (8800GTS is the cheapest right now)
2 gigs of RAM.

So what does that add on to the cost then? Spec a machine (from the ground up) to play Crysis at maximum detail. Oh, FYI - I love PC's and gaming on them, but Crysis doesn't excite me in the slightest. After the complete mess and waste of space that Far Cry was (all graphics and absolutely nothing else) I'm not even slightly bothered about Crysis. I'm just curious what a brand new user with no PC and no console might be thinking. I like PC games, but PC games only appeal to PC users and owners, and existing PC gamers. Nobody looks at a PC game and says 'thats going to make me buy a PC'.
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