lol yea its complete bull but we have to put up with it until we become the video game execs and then we will probably do the same thing despite ourselves.

and i looked and microsoft is still selling the Red console for 400 but i was wondering if you could get it in any stores.

I looked up the Red RE xbox and its like 500$ new on Amazon. I cant afford that. As much as i would love it.

What is the Jaspar chip though?

Getting the off brand HDMI with the Arcade system sounds like a good idea.

Red would be my favorite if i could get it for the same price as an Elite.

The only problem with the Arcade is it doesnt even come with the HDMI cable. which costs 40$.

A 120GB hard drive costs 150$. so if i got the 200$ Arcade console and i ended up getting those things it would end up costing me 400$ anyway.

I am thinking about getting the Elite now so that i get the cable and the hard drive and selling my 60GB hard drive for a good amount of cash.

I need a new 360. The one i have now is out of warranty and i would rather buy a new console than buy a new warranty for 100$ and send this one in.

I'm interested in the HDMI port and cable. I already have a 60GB hard drive but i wouldnt mind a 120 since i will eventually fill the 60.

So the consoles im interested in are the Arcade + game, the Arcade+ 512MB (though i dont know what this would mean for me exactly) and the Elite/ 2 games. I figure i could sell the games (though any game that comes with the console is worth next to nothing).

These are NOT my only options of course. I dont have much money so more value for less cash is what im looking for.

Any suggestions on where to get the best deal for my money just provide a link or say why.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks!

That's basically the cost of a rent; you might as well go for it if you have the slightest interest in horror films. Elraptor