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#1 shadow_lord_11
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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]This thread did alot better than i thought it would. the-very-best

In what? Generating discussion? Getting DC? Getting a lot of replies?

 

all of the abouve. I would have thought it would have been a sheepfest but i accually got some decent discussion going.
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I've never cared about sales.

I had a gamecube last gen so you can see why. The same mentality has pretty much transferred this gen. sales are importantin some respects, i just dont give a damn about them personally.

 

and accually, no, sales were not the "main defense point of cows" they happened to have the best games too.  

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This thread did alot better than i thought it would.
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Listen man influence affects sales in the gaming industry. Mario's influence makes all of his games sell over a million copies, most of all games with Mario in it score well. What the hell more do you want from a game then to score and sell well? Mario wasn't out done last gen because Mario was still scoring AAA and still was outselling the competition. He is not what he once was eh? He just churns out tons of AA games and sells a million copies on everything yet he isnt' the face of gaming. Don't make me laugh your post is a joke. How could anyone say Mario is no longer the face of gaming. Mario will always be the face of gaming as long as Nintendo is alive period.

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Marios not the face of gaming for the simple fact that he is no longer the undisputed king of quality.

Yes he has many great games, i mean his name is thrown on dozens of titles a year. But he no longer dominates the platform genre like he used to. SMS is was not even close to other platforms like PoP, Sly and the like. As for Paper mario, there were dozens other just as good if not better rpg's also.

And you're acting like mario is the only million dollar seller. There were literally DOZENS and DOZENS of other million dollar sellers. If Masterchief face was thrown on everything from racing cars to tennis, im sure they would sell millions too.

The difference? nintendo throws their main character all over the place, other companies generally keep thier main ip's in a single series.

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First of all what I laughed because what you said wasn't a big deal.

Should it ever be man its a game forum not a White House debate.

Okay so Mario has 3 AAA games thats all well and good?

What the hell more do you want? Unless your favorite franchise is GTA, Zelda, or another top tier franchise its not getting AAA's and AA's like Mario games.

Back in the day Mario was like the first thing you thought of when you thought about gaming. Now Mario hasn't be substantial in years.

Yeah um when you think about gaming Mario is still the first name to come to mind. Even Peter Moore and every other person on this planet knows that. He's still the biggest icon in gaming. Mario hasn't been substantial in years? You're hallucinating New Super Mario Brothers sold 420,000 its first day and is destroying sales charts even now. It hit a million copies sold in two weeks. You name me one game with Mario in its title that has come out recently that hasn't sold a million copies.You click ths link and you tell me if it isn't substantial.

Those games are AAA but they haven't changed the industry like they used to be.

Did God of War, Final Fantasy, Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry or any of the best selling games ever change the industry? No, all they did was do what good games do, and that is score well and become well recieved. Same as Mario is still doing now.

Mario had good games last gen but nobody is signing his praises like they used to.

Name me the last game featuring Mario in its title not to sell well? He's still selling amazinly well so people obviously are still praising him. Super Mario Galaxy is hyped as the next big platformer. Just because you don't doesn't mean others aren't.

Paper Mario were good games and all but correct me if I'm wrong but it didn't sell well.

Please stop making a fool of yourself both sold over a million copies.

New Super Mario Brothers was good but it was the same as the SNES games. So nearly Mario's games haven't met as much as the past.

This coming from a guys who's blog says "I didn't buy a DS because of the gimmick":roll: Please go play the game before you say some more stupid things seriously. If it scores AAA and it sells in the multimillions and smashes sales records then yes it still means as much as the past.

Your arguments are becoming more stale then a Megaman game. Go brush up your getting rusty.

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you post would make sense if i was talking about sales. Pretty much everything you've said has revolved around how successful a game is sales wise. the only thing i was wrong about when it comes to sales was that i didnt know that paper mario has sold over a million, which is of little consequence.

 

Listen, my post had no connection with sales. everything i said, had to do with marios influence on the gaming industry. i listed reasons why mario wasnt as influential as he has been in the past, and you brushed it off as meaning it doesnt matter because he still sells well. That was never my arguement to begin with. if sales is an indication of greatness in the game industry, thn fifty cent bullet proof and pokemon should be crowned kings.

In the past, mario did have the sales, but he also had the undisputable quality in every incarnation of his titles to back it up.  

In alot of ways, mario is a victim of his own success. pretty much everything you've used as a rebuttal had to do with sale success. i was neevr talking sales success. I already explained how mario was out done by many games this gen. He is NOT what he once was and no, he is no longer the face of gaming.

Galaxy has a chance to resurrect this.

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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]So now we're to the point were we await games rated in the 7's? pathetic

man system wars has fallen a long way since it was either AAA or flop. Now we have this "but but, its still fun!" nonsense damage control nyoroism

This post made me chuckle. One of the few things that do in System Wars. If you're going to say the Wii has a drought, then we bring up good games and go "LOL YA RIGHT LOL!!!" then there's no point in arguing.

Good games? Maybe my mind is a little too nostalgic. Olden days systems would not have dared listed a 7.0 game as "good"

sw had its own standards, and everyday i see things changing. i miss the old ways.  

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[QUOTE="juanfraino"]

[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]"but but, just wait, the good games will cum. mur salez is equalz mur games!"Jandurin

Well, it did work for the ps2. And btw, Paper Mario is a week from release. :|


It would've behooved him to make this topic in like 2 weeks or something.

Well i was meaing 3rd party game originally but apperently i didnt make that abundantly obvious.

 

besides, if i had, no doubt i would have got "SPM just released last week :|" from the sheep.

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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]

[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]So what's your point?nyoroism

just wait, you'll get it eventually

Nice flamebate btw.

no prob

You a Goon?

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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Haven't seen it. Is there a reason to? Yeah, just wait. Just wait less than a week for Super Paper Mario, then wait a little bit longer for Prince of Persia.GundamGuy0

Please tell me you didnt just use PoP as an example :lol:

Last gen ports again? SAD.

As for SPM, i expect this game to do rather well, but then theres going to be another drought until the holiday season with galaxy etc.



I never played The Two Thrones - so what difference does it make? :|

Mario Party 8 comes out on May 29 - but SPM and the games I already have will hold me over well. In June, we get Scarface, Pokemon Battle Revolution and Dragon Quest Swords.

Marip party? you guys are just reaching now.

and if you havent played two throne syet...are you suddenly going to get it because its on wii?

 

So we're reaching because it's a game... and probly a decent game at that... 7+ prob.

What has the Xbox got for the next three months?

How about the PS3...

 

How about we actually compare instead of just leting causal empericism prevaile. Like back up this waiting with release charts... or something.

So now we're to the point were we await games rated in the 7's? pathetic

 man system wars has fallen a long way since it was either AAA or flop. Now we have this "but but, its still fun!" nonsense damage control