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#1 shaun_levins
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Ah, so you are mainly looking for a way to do TIVO like stuff with recording HD?

It's hard to get that if it costs that much extra from your company. I myself haven't because I haven't found the need to upgrade to digital cable just to get a HD DVR and more HD stations, it adds up. I had high hopes for the digital cable HD Tivo series 3, but it debuted at $799, totally lacks and still does the ability to transfer video to a computer like all other models, then you have that Tivo money $15+ fee, then the cable card rental costs, then the digital cable costs, it starts becoming a fortune. The Tivo Series 3 is $400 now after rebate at some places, but again there's the Tivo fee and no ability to move files to a computer.

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which is exactly why i want to use my computer to record HD programs and watch them on my nice 57" mitsubishi in 1080

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#2 shaun_levins
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[QUOTE="shaun_levins"][QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="shaun_levins"][QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="shaun_levins"]

so pretty much if i want HD capability i should probably wait to buy...?

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I don't understand. Are you saying you want to wait for a tv tuner that supports full digital cable with cable cards for all HD stations like Discovery HD and such?

im saying that because there doesnt seem to be a tuner card available that supports the full digital cable with HD stations such as Discovery, National Geographic, HBO HD, etc., i should wait until more tuner cards come out (ones with this capability) if those are the programs i wish to view

Is there a reason you need to do it through a computer then the 360? I mean if you sign up for digital cable it's only $5 a month to rent the HD tuner box for your tv, then you also get HD on demand, or $10 if you want a HD digital video recorder that's like a tivo. I did search and see some ATI stuff with digital cable with cable card slots, but I don't know if it ever happened since the artiacle was from January and the article said it was only going to be sold with new computers because of DRM, or whatever copy protection.

cox (my cable service provider) charges like $15 bucks extra a month plus an extra something for the remote rental both of which my dad (who pays the bills lol) doesnt want to pay

Is the $15 extra a month just for HD channels of upgrading to digital cable? They might force you to upgrade to digital cable to have access to HD, which in the end would result in having to have a digital cable box anyway. Though, they might not force you into digital cable if you already have a cable card device and just want HD. Also, usually a cable company will charge monthly for even renting out a cable card. It's usually less than a full box, like $2.75 or something. It pisses people off as some that bought the new HD Tivo Series 3 that has two cable card slots, they are charged for each cable card as two separate boxes even though they are both in one box.

no, the $15 + 4$ a month is for the box and the remote. right now we only pay like $4 a month for a cable card which gives us digital cable and all the HD programming using the remote that came with the tv.

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#3 shaun_levins
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[QUOTE="shaun_levins"][QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="shaun_levins"]

so pretty much if i want HD capability i should probably wait to buy...?

TimothyB

I don't understand. Are you saying you want to wait for a tv tuner that supports full digital cable with cable cards for all HD stations like Discovery HD and such?

im saying that because there doesnt seem to be a tuner card available that supports the full digital cable with HD stations such as Discovery, National Geographic, HBO HD, etc., i should wait until more tuner cards come out (ones with this capability) if those are the programs i wish to view

Is there a reason you need to do it through a computer then the 360? I mean if you sign up for digital cable it's only $5 a month to rent the HD tuner box for your tv, then you also get HD on demand, or $10 if you want a HD digital video recorder that's like a tivo. I did search and see some ATI stuff with digital cable with cable card slots, but I don't know if it ever happened since the artiacle was from January and the article said it was only going to be sold with new computers because of DRM, or whatever copy protection.

cox (my cable service provider) charges like $15 bucks extra a month plus an extra something for the remote rental both of which my dad (who pays the bills lol) doesnt want to pay

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#4 shaun_levins
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[QUOTE="shaun_levins"]

so pretty much if i want HD capability i should probably wait to buy...?

TimothyB

I don't understand. Are you saying you want to wait for a tv tuner that supports full digital cable with cable cards for all HD stations like Discovery HD and such?

im saying that because there doesnt seem to be a tuner card available that supports the full digital cable with HD stations such as Discovery, National Geographic, HBO HD, etc., i should wait until more tuner cards come out (ones with this capability) if those are the programs i wish to view

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#6 shaun_levins
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yeah, from the games that ive beat and remember, i think MGS 2 was pretty good.
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#7 shaun_levins
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[QUOTE="shaun_levins"][QUOTE="TimothyB"]

[QUOTE="shaun_levins"]ok, now that the remote situation is under control, what aboutthe HD?TimothyB

All I know is when the 360 1080p a first came out people tried media center to see if 1080p worked through it and they found it was still limited to 720p. I bet 1080p works on the computer, just not through the 360. Maybe it's a network limitation, or just was never designed into the 360's media center abilities.

But, not like there's a lot of 1080p videos on computers anyway, so I can't imagine it being a huge issue.

my concern is more for like HD tv programming and such

You'd need a special HD Tuner card, and most likely there are none yet that have cable cards for digital cable or work with satellite, so the only HD you'd have access to are the free stations. The first HD Tuner card you'd only get those from using an antenna with the card, not sure if there are any that detect them over cable. I'm talking about stations like Fox, NBC, ABC. Never seen or read how Media Center particularly works with an HD card or if it does.

A quick search on newegg found this HD tuner that seems to work with digital cable and says supports media center:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260005
Features: ATSC, Analog TV, and Digital Cable (64-QAM, 256-QAM) Works with Windows Media Center, with included MCE software encoder media center software: TotalMedia Supports Time-Shifting Function Scheduled-Recording with EPG Electronic Program Guide

so pretty much if i want HD capability i should probably wait to buy...?

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#8 shaun_levins
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[QUOTE="shaun_levins"]ok, now that the remote situation is under control, what aboutthe HD?TimothyB

All I know is when the 360 1080p a first came out people tried media center to see if 1080p worked through it and they found it was still limited to 720p. I bet 1080p works on the computer, just not through the 360. Maybe it's a network limitation, or just was never designed into the 360's media center abilities.

But, not like there's a lot of 1080p videos on computers anyway, so I can't imagine it being a huge issue.

my concern is more for like HD tv programming and such

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#9 shaun_levins
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question to all who have this set up... what type of tv tuner card are you using and what kinds of features does it have?

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#10 shaun_levins
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ok, now that the remote situation is under control, what aboutthe HD?
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