@troll_elite: people keep saying this and i still dont see it......the AMD 480 is running 5.5tf and its only a 200 dollar video card....in a year it will be a 150 dollar card......i dont know if its right or not but from what i have read so far the rest of it is just little upgrade with the CPU being overclocked from 1.8ghz to 2.2......its getting more/faster memory but memory is DIRT cheap even using DDR5... and 1 or 2tb harddrives options would also be dirt cheap when bought in bulk.......i really dont see it costing more then 600 bucks just because of current prices on PC hardware.....PC is the place were money makes up for your penis so a 200 dollar card coming close to that level of performance today is crazy cheap.....to be blunt with it not being something along the lines of 9tf i dont see how people would spend a grand on it.....last if you look at the world of gaming the 600 dollar price point is HIGH and would be a premium price VS the 250 you can get a one for right now on sale....
@ziltoid: again very good points......and yes apple screwed the world with the sheep willing to spend 700 dollars on a phone every time apple farted!!!!.....and your right i dont want to see consoles that cant be upgraded....so far from everything i have seen the new Scorpio is only really getting a new GPU and memory with a over clock being done to the CPU from 1.8 to 2.2ghz......if the system was upgrade-able like a PC this would have been real easy to get to that next level.......if we end up with a fractured world of gaming like droid its over man its just over!!!......i dont want new consoles every 6 months like tablets.....and you can take kit kat, ice cream sandwich and shove them so hard in the brown eye it turns it black and blue........oh man this could really fucking suck(sorry like a stinky turd in a toilet bowl its sinking in).......i hope sony get desperate and goes back to putting stuff out for PC.....at one point tons of their games were only made for PC.....then i just screw with that every 3 years if i wanted to keep gaming.....
@redx555: you are right.....they will keep making consoles with all of them being able to play the new games....BUT i dont see this being a good business model in 5 years as tech will have moved on to much......if this becomes a trend and we see new consoles every 3 years there will be to much of a gap for them to keep supporting old gen systems as the years go on.....the one only has 1.6 or .8tf and the new system is going to have 6tf......if the system after that has 12tf or something crazy like 18 how is a game made for them going to run on the old system without game makers taking months of extra work to make them run right???......at some point they will have to say this is the Xbox 2 family or something like that......
@deathwish026: it wont be over 600 bucks......im basing that on facts so lets look at them....
first..... a AMD 480 is all of 200 bucks right now TODAY......it has 5.5tf all by its self......if the scorpio is running 6tf it could easily be a modded version of this chip set as we know AMD is making the parts again
second..... its over a year away.......production cost will be cheaper in a year just like they are for anything.....
third....its going to be based on current consoles with just a little bit better CPU and memory is DIRT cheap......if current consoles can see a sale of 250 for a one i dont see how the next CPU, memory, case, power supply and even a 1 or 2tb harddrive will cost more then 400 bucks to add to a 200 dollar GPU(that really wont cost 200 bucks to make because it wont need its own memory, voltage controllers and PCB board) plus the 200 bucks is retail so that chip has to be less then a 100 bucks to make as just a chip......
i know there is speculation in there but also a lot of facts.....let me know what you think as you seem to think with brains most of the time......to really be blunt i could see this being 500 bucks if they keep the old CPU and over clock it 2.2ghz like a couple of websites said they might do......
@darkelf83: i have looked over the list......like almost half are Japanese games......out of the ones in the US like 40% of them made it out to PC.....
@ziltoid: you make a lot of valid points dude but looking over the history of gaming as a whole its really nothing new.....if you go back to the early 80's with things like commodore 64 they tried to make PC gaming cheap and for the masses.....then NES hit and every one went consoles do to price(even with the 64 being the best selling computer in history 595 dollars in 82 was a LOT of money!!! even in 85 when NES was main stream the 300 bucks the console was, was a lot less then the 64).......then SNES came along and even nintendo wanted to upgrade it mid cycle with a CD drive just like sega did with its CD drive and 32X add on.......N64 had memory expansion......game cube had a add on modem and game boy player.....PS2 had a harddrive add on and the ability linux........OG xbox could also run linux.....
my point is on some level for decades its almost always been some level of computer hardware running gaming......and with the jumps hardware is making every 2 to 4 years i only see consoles that can be upgraded coming again......lots of programmers have been working on a scale-able slop for years with games being played on many gens of hardware on PC.....this could be good or bad.....but if they can make changing a harddrive in a PS4 easy why cant they make swapping a GPU or CPU just as easy????
@zerofrust: "from a platform that is erroneously considered irrelevant".....if your talking about PC your head is up your ass.....you would not have DLC without PC......you would not have online game play without PC.......you would not even have the hardware from the last 3 gens without PC......in other words you would not have gaming at all without PC.....last i leave you with the simple fact games are selling better on PC then consoles in some places.....fallout 4 sold better on PC then one or PS4......what is irrelevant is simpletons like you missing the very reason you can game at all even if its on consoles....
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