@theuncannyone: mods do make the games.......with their track record you need them just to get the game running well......

@chewbacca72: should have let it run over night......

@indigoj: yeah but this has been going on for years......why should the modding groups fix their problems???

those are some good games to get with the system for 370........

@suicidesn0wman: i cant wait.....im play war thunder a lot on PC and when they made it work on PS4 my kill count DOUBLED.......if MS has any brains they will make the names all the same color so you cant tell who is on consoles......PC gamer rape them........thanks for the kill count console guys.......but on the flip side it will be nice to see all servers full because of the console players.....oh hunting i will go a hunting i will go....HAHAHA

@Pedro: and how would MS or sony get their cut of the money.....what your saying would kill gaming on consoles altogether......

@Adam802: you cant read can you......he is saying PC gamers that would have gotten a one for games they could not get on PC.......you really are stupid....

@chiefwiggum16: empty online rooms???? you do know we can still play games you dont even have working server for right??? you do also understand even with games made for PC ported to console you cant play on the level we do??? planet side 2 could have a 1000 people in one server on the PC version......you cant get more then 400 in to the PS4 version of the game.....

@reduc_ab_: so you missed the fact that most of the "only on PS4" games are also on PC like street fighter??? the list of games a PC cant play is the smallest of them all......and that was before MS did this.....the best place the new console will shine is VR and people wanting cheap 4k gaming.....