ok heres the deal with the orange box... you get a tarific deal with practicaly 5 games in 1... however i believe only one of them are worth playing for the serious gamer... going into this purchase i was a little skeptical because i wasnt sure if i was going to get the same satifaction of an fps like, fall of man, or halo 3. however dont be fooled by the graphics or gameplay footage team fortress is great. multiplayer is solid, and like jeff g said it feels like counter strike.. ok portal is very frustrating, with very little replay value... in my book thats a filer for if you get tierd of the other games. half life two is a blast.. i beat the story last night im not going to give anything away but, you feel a little p.o. at the end... half life 2 feels just right, shooting element dilogue, graphics everything.. definately by orange box, even if you have not played the previos games, guess what THEY CAME WITH ORANGE BOX,,,, YAHHHHH, so stop reading this a go by it lol.....