[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

This is really disturbing from the lemming side. They keep saying that most of the 360 defects in many topics is the fault of the user. That they don't ventilate it. I highly extremely doubt that in all the 20+ years of gaming that its the user's entire fault that a hardware fails. I mean honestly, it happens out of the blue for many people, and all you can do is blame your own kind and do some damage control. The first Ps2s weren't such a great quality, but they fixed it real quick. And yet you have these 360s breaking after warranty, and all you do is blame gamers. What are you, Jack Thompson?

Are you telling me that users suddenly decided to throw their 360 down the stairs? Really?

 

This 360 defect is an epidemic, it's not some overblown feature, too many reports from even established bloggers and news sites. This can't be true that its nothing, even the xbox site has a huge topic in its forum about defects.

What's your excuse about this?

 

 

snyper1982

It is blown out of proportin. It is a higher than normal number of defects, but not anywhere near as much as people make it out to be. i would guess along the order of 5 percent.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

Look at these excuses.

Well yeah, I mean when the Wii came out, just about a huge percentage of them died, same with the PS3, you know new hardware,...... oh wait.

Deny it all you want, but you better tell MS to fix this rather than make excuses for them.

DXGreat1_HGL

So, did you have such an outcry over Sony with the PS2?

So you've proven that your argument holds no validity whatsoever. /thread

Huh? I wasn't around thinking about games, but I was a casual, and I knew about the DRE issue, but common man, this shouldn't be happening all the time.

But I guess its ok that hardware fails this often. Yeah, its all a coincidence, totally dude. /sarcasm  

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]

Look at these excuses.

Well yeah, I mean when the Wii came out, just about a huge percentage of them died, same with the PS3, you know new hardware,...... oh wait.

Deny it all you want, but you better tell MS to fix this rather than make excuses for them.

DXGreat1_HGL

So, did you have such an outcry over Sony with the PS2?

Look at these excuses.

Well yeah, I mean when the Wii came out, just about a huge percentage of them died, same with the PS3, you know new hardware,...... oh wait. 

Deny it all you want, but you better tell MS to fix this rather than make excuses for them. 

Have you ever even played the PS3?

I played all the systems before deciding, and guess which one I didn't pick.

Hint: I've seen it get red lights in retail stores.

i can understand when a console breaks down but when people start saying they are on their 5th and 6th xbox 360 something has to be wrong. maybe they aren't throwing it down the stairs but they are doing something they shouldn't. i've had my 360 for about a year and had zero problems with it.ItalStallion777

So lemmings think that its the users fault that hardware breaks, you heard it here folks. More fragile than a glass vase, more or less right?

It says quite vividly in the instruction manual to give the 360 room to breathe and not to move it while it is running. Many of these incidents are end-user's fault.foxhound_fox

Stop denying it, you're only hurting your own kind.

This is really disturbing from the lemming side. They keep saying that most of the 360 defects in many topics is the fault of the user. That they don't ventilate it. I highly extremely doubt that in all the 20+ years of gaming that its the user's entire fault that a hardware fails. I mean honestly, it happens out of the blue for many people, and all you can do is blame your own kind and do some damage control. The first Ps2s weren't such a great quality, but they fixed it real quick. And yet you have these 360s breaking after warranty, and all you do is blame gamers. What are you, Jack Thompson?

Are you telling me that users suddenly decided to throw their 360 down the stairs? Really?

This 360 defect is an epidemic, it's not some overblown feature, too many reports from even established bloggers and news sites. This can't be true that its nothing, even the xbox site has a huge topic in its forum about defects.

What's your excuse about this?

You might have gotten your wish. It seems that copies of the latest Sony DVD's don't work on older DVD players, but work fine on newer players. When called on the bluff, Sony apologized and called the error "updated copy protection." They weren't going to go back to their policy either, unlike the CD fiasco. Of course, DVD players don't naturally recieve firmware updates like computers do (wonder who had to explain Sony that one), so Sony had to re-issue all DVDs with lesser protection.

Bet you're glad that Sony can't update your DVD player right now, ain't ya? Who knows what would happen if suddenly a DVD rendered your Xbox obsolete? Would Sony fix it? Would Microsoft fix it? And if neither didn't, who would you sue to fix it? Tough questions, thats for sure.

SirSpudly

Cool your shoes penguin man. He asked about the DRE, not about Sony not supporting your almost decade old dvd player.