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#1 thunderhorse55
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i dont hate COD, i just think that its a bit over rated. i personally enjoy the game, but it brings nothing new to the table. its just an ordinary FPS where everything is done right. i prefer shooters such as bioshock, gears, uncharted, etc.

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[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"]

he said that he "believe's" so...everyone has to believe with what he wants...its our choice after all =)

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He "believes" that if I don't choose to have blind faith in his God, that I will receive eternal punishment in Hell for choosing the wrong religion/no religion. I find that quite offensive. I highly doubt his God would want anyone to be that judgemental. Like I've already said, if God is truly benevolent, he wouldn't care which epithet you choose to worship (especially if he is the all-pervading, omnipotent "God," which could easily manifest itself in any form to any person of any religion)... or if you choose to not worship at all and remain a good person towards others.

I'm sorry to offend you, I didn't intend for that. I'm going to leave this forum now, as I'm clearly making things worse. I'm sorry everyone

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="thunderhorse55"]

It's all about faith man. Whatever religion you have faith in is your choice. I believe that the only true God is God himself, because that's where my faith is. Other people don't believe that, which is fine. But what I believe is that those who don't put all there faith and trust in God will suffer Hell

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Wait... what? Whatever religion a person has faith in is their choice but if its not your's, they're "wrong" and will suffer an eternity in Hell? I don't think your God would like you condemning people for choosing the "wrong" religion. I thought God was the only judge... and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't care if you were Christian, Muslim, Jew, Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Zoroaster, Baha'i, etc. I would think that as long as you are a good person and have your heart in the right place, he couldn't care less about blind faith in an unknowable supernatural being.

he said that he "believe's" so...everyone has to believe with what he wants...its our choice after all =)

let me rephrase that: it's our choice whether or not to believe in God

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#4 thunderhorse55
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well to be honest why would someone ( satan, the fallen angel casted down from heaven ) punish those who donot believe in he who cast him out? wouldnt he cherish you?

Satan doesn't punish us, God does. I don't know why we have to suffer with Satan, but we do
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]I'd like to know how God can love us but at the same time trick us into not believing he's real so we can spend eternity being tortured in hell.

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God isn't tricking us. In my opinion, He's testing us. Anyone can believe in something they can see, touch, hear, etc., but a true Christian will believe in Him because of what He said, not what He showed us.

Only Christians go to heaven then? Tell me something. Say your parent wanted to 'test' on your beliefs concerning evolution. They decide to not tell you about it and make it seem as if evolution was false while others at your school are stating that it's false as well so your parents just let you continue believing that. In 1 year they will torture you or provide you with the complete edenlike existence. Would that be a loving parent?

I'm not sure where, but somewhere in the Bible it says that God will give every human a chance to hear about Him, and a decision on whether or not to believe

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[QUOTE="thunderhorse55"]

It's all about faith man. Whatever religion you have faith in is your choice. I believe that the only true God is God himself, because that's where my faith is. Other people don't believe that, which is fine. But what I believe is that those who don't put all there faith and trust in God will suffer Hell

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Wait... what? Whatever religion a person has faith in is their choice but if its not your's, they're "wrong" and will suffer an eternity in Hell? I don't think your God would like you condemning people for choosing the "wrong" religion. I thought God was the only judge... and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't care if you were Christian, Muslim, Jew, Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Zoroaster, Baha'i, etc. I would think that as long as you are a good person and have your heart in the right place, he couldn't care less about blind faith in an unknowable supernatural being.

No, I'm not condemning anyone. I'm just stating the truth.

God is the only judge, and only He can see what's truely in our hearts.

I'm also not trying to say that because I believein God, HE's the only way. I say that because, once again, that's what I believe.

God does care what "religion" you believe in, because if you don't believe in Him, He'll punish you via Hell. He doesn't decide who goes to Heaven and who doesn't based on works, but based on the heart and beliefs.

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No one can prove that God exists, nor can anyone prove that he doesn't exist. Rather than have proof that He exists, one must just believe that God exist. Some will believe and spend their eternity in Heaven with God and all the other believers. Some won't believe, and spend eternity in Hell, suffering eternal pain and regret. I have a firm belief that I'm going to Heaven, and I hope all of you will follow me. Please don't hesitate to message me about any questions regarding God (or anything else for that matter).

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I'd like to know how God can love us but at the same time trick us into not believing he's real so we can spend eternity being tortured in hell.

God isn't tricking us. In my opinion, He's testing us. Anyone can believe in something they can see, touch, hear, etc., but a true Christian will believe in Him because of what He said, not what He showed us.

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[QUOTE="thunderhorse55"]

No one can prove that God exists, nor can anyone prove that he doesn't exist. Rather than have proof that He exists, one must just believe that God exist. Some will believe and spend their eternity in Heaven with God and all the other believers. Some won't believe, and spend eternity in Hell, suffering eternal pain and regret. I have a firm belief that I'm going to Heaven, and I hope all of you will follow me. Please don't hesitate to message me about any questions regarding God (or anything else for that matter).

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What if you choose the wrong God? How do you know you are right? How do you know that Brahma isn't the right God? What if you worship the Christian God and Zoroastrianism is the "right" religion? Ormazd would not be pleased.

No true "God" would punish those who do bad and reward those who do good. Those who do bad are punished by their own actions bringing consequence, and those who do good are rewarded by their own actions bringing pleasantries.

It's all about faith man. Whatever religion you have faith in is your choice. I believe that the only true God is God himself, because that's where my faith is. Other people don't believe that, which is fine. But what I believe is that those who don't put all there faith and trust in God will suffer Hell

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No one can prove that God exists, nor can anyone prove that he doesn't exist. Rather than have proof that He exists, one must just believe that God exist. Some will believe and spend their eternity in Heaven with God and all the other believers. Some won't believe, and spend eternity in Hell, suffering eternal pain and regret. I have a firm belief that I'm going to Heaven, and I hope all of you will follow me. Please don't hesitate to message me about any questions regarding God (or anything else for that matter).

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#10 thunderhorse55
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ok thanks, im not gonna buy it then