I agree and it's interesting how both of those shows are Fox programming. Another one is Raymond but I find them all hilarious. The only place a young male is going to learn how to be a man is from his dad or other men in their life. The high rate of divorce is probably a much larger issue then TV portraying men poorly. I think men have been failing the younger generation to some degree but you can't blame it all on the media.

My post limit has been reached and the following was added just before reading the post below but obviously we are in agreement again. Also should women be free from blame? They have a lot of influence within the family unit in how they treat their husbands and how they raise their sons.

Clint Eastwood. Women would agree until they found out how many wives and partners he has had but even then they would still prefer their sons turned out to be more like him than Michael Moore.

The simple solution would be to read reviews and use your purchasing power to send a message, at the very least you won't be actively supporting it. Complaining about something and expecting it to change simply because you want it to isn't a viable strategy.

Ferengi are the race I admire most. They don't pretend to be something they are not and they don't care about trying to control the galaxy with military might or forcing/converting others into their belief system.

Yep. Momma bear is going to go crazy protecting her cubs. Not even a huge pot of honey is going to calm her down now. I for one welcome the coming nuclear winter.

It would make me feel like it's time to lock and load. May the strongest species win!

Align with Satan and lead his forces to overthrow god and conquer Heaven. It's the only sure strategy unless you want to rely on gods judgement of how you have lived your life coming down in your favour. Personally I wouldn't want to rely on that.

If I was hungry enough I'm sure my primitive instincts would kick in and I could even kill and eat you if I had to. An animal? It's already dead, unless that animal is an amusing monkey. I would have to be really hungry to kill one of those.

@MakeMeaSammitch:

That is a sorry attitude to take. I just view MSNBC and Fox in the same way I view comedy central. Good entertainment but not for the easily offended. Though sometimes a good dose of anger from something you find offensive does wonders for the body and makes you feel alive.

@MakeMeaSammitch:

Scary or not MSNBC isn't going to call you racist for killing them. I said it would be politically correct, I didn't say it would be easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA_TCItjx1U