she was specifically referring to master race anarco-capitalism, or Rothboardians

Many people assume that Ayn Rand was a champion of libertarian thought.

But Rand herself pilloried libertarians, condemning libertarianism as being a greater threat to freedom and capitalism than both modern liberalism and conservativism. For example, Rand said:

All kinds of people today call themselves libertarians, especially something calling itself the New Right, which consists of hippies, except that theyre anarchists instead of collectivists. But of course, anarchists are collectivists. Capitalism is the one system that requires absolute objective law, yet they want to combine capitalism and anarchism. That is worse than anything the New Left has proposed. Its a mockery of philosophy and ideology. They sling slogans and try to ride on two bandwagons. They want to be hippies, but dont want to preach collectivism, because those jobs are already taken. But anarchism is a logical outgrowth of the anti-intellectual side of collectivism. I could deal with a Marxist with a greater chance of reaching some kind of understanding, and with much greater respect. The anarchist is the scum of the intellectual world of the left, which has given them up. So the right picks up another leftist discard. Thats the Libertarian movement.

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Id rather vote for Bob Hope, the Marx Brothers, or Jerry Lewis [than a candidate from the Libertarian Party].

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[The Libertarian Party is] a cheap attempt at publicity, which Libertarians wont get. Todays events, particularly Watergate, should teach anyone with amateur political notions that they cannot rush into politics in order to get publicity. The issue is so serious today, that to form a new party based in part on half-baked ideas, and in part on borrowed ideasI wont say from whomis irresponsible, and in todays context, nearly immoral.

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[Libertarians] are not defenders of capitalism. Theyre a group of publicity seekers who rush into politics prematurely, because they allegedly want to educate people through a political campaign, which cant be done. Further, their leadership consists of men of every of persuasion, from religious conservatives to anarchists. Moreover, most of them are my enemies: they spend their time denouncing me, while plagiarizing my ideas. Now, I think its a bad beginning for an allegedly pro-capitalist party to start by stealing ideas.

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Now here is a party that plagiarizes some of my ideas, mixes it with the exact oppositewith religionists, anarchists, and just about every intellectual misfit and scum they can findand they call themselves Libertarians, and run for office. I dislike Reagan and Carter; Im not too enthusiastic about the other candidates. But the worst of them are giants compared to anybody who would attempt something as un-philosophical, low, and pragmatic as the Libertarian Party. It is the last insult to ideas and philosophical consistency.

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[Question] Why dont you approve of the Libertarians, thousands of whom are loyal readers of your works?

[Rand] Because Libertarians are a monstrous, disgusting bunch of people: they plagiarize my ideas when that fits their purpose, and they denounce me in a more vicious manner than any communist publication, when that fits their purpose. They are lower than any pragmatists, and what they hold against Objectivism is morality. Theyd like to have an amoral political program.

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The Libertarians arent worthy of being the means to any end, let alone the end of spreading Objectivism.

EDIT: source http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-11-29/ayn-rand-was-not-libertarian

[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its the end result.

Diablo-B

1930s.. obviously oblivious to the great depression.

thanks just needed a reason to post that link. sucka

[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

In my opinion, people like you are monsters, in your perfect world defective children would be left in the woods to die spartan fashion to avoid them be a 'burden' to you.

tenaka2

Sorry, you are not a charitable person, you are simply greedy. Where would this charity come from if everyone thought like you?

i guess it makes me greedy to want to keep the money I've earned

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]In my opinion, people like you are monsters, in your perfect world defective children would be left in the woods to die spartan fashion to avoid them be a 'burden' to you.tenaka2

Its the end result.

[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

In my opinion, people like you are monsters, in your perfect world defective children would be left in the woods to die spartan fashion to avoid them be a 'burden' to you.

GreySeal9

If charity alone could address all the need out there, there would be no reason for entitlements/welfare/etc. Charity can help, but the funds of charities are hardly robust or stable enough to shoulder the immense burden that the government takes upon itself.

[QUOTE="weedfacekilla"]

Says Politico: The American public overwhelmingly favors raising taxes on the rich as a way to pay down the deficit, while opposing a hike in the Medicare eligibility age or eliminating tax deductions, according to a poll released Wednesday.

For Medicare and Social Security to remain solvent, the U.S. government would have to invest over $220 trillion right now, and get a roughly five percent rate of return. Medicare alone accounts for easily 80% of that. And the American public wont tolerate even a two-year extension of the retirement age.

Meanwhile, they think successful people owe them money. Someone who earns, say, $300K per year does so not because of political connections or cronyism. Those people earn in the millions. The $300K guy is the person who worked his tail off over many years of serving the public in some valuable way. And complete strangers think they have the right to a portion of his life. Of five days of this guys labor, these people feel entitled to at least two of them. A total stranger to them. He owes them at least 40% of his life.

(Incidentally, add up the sales taxes people pay every day, plus the extra-high taxes for parking and hotels, plus state income taxes, plus property taxes, plus gas taxes, plus all the taxes you see listed on your cable bill, and on and on, and your tax payment winds up a lot higher than whatever federal income tax rate happens to hit you.)

tenaka2

In my opinion, people like you are monsters, in your perfect world defective children would be left in the woods to die spartan fashion to avoid them be a 'burden' to you.

i think a better option would be to cut wasteful military spending rather than cut people's benefits although we need less spending overall

Why is it that right-wing posters always defende the "hard working rich" but always decry the "hard working poor" as lazy, selfish and far more interested in other people's money?

Someone please enlighten me.

jimkabrhel

You and everyone else who cries "wealth redistribution" clearly doesnt understand the issue at hand and is just shouting the conservative battle cry. This has nothing to do with taking from the rich to give to the poor (although some democrats like Obama painted that narrative). This is about Bush creating a very large and TEMPORARY tax break to help stimulate the economy. The tax break was made temporary because it was too big to be sustained. We cant afford it long term.

But some are trying to make it permanent by painting this as a tax increase. NO. Let the TEMPORARY tax breaks expire like they were meant to. Feel free to make new tax breaks that we can afford but the Bush tax cuts were made temporary for a reason.

Diablo-B

Says Politico: The American public overwhelmingly favors raising taxes on the rich as a way to pay down the deficit, while opposing a hike in the Medicare eligibility age or eliminating tax deductions, according to a poll released Wednesday.

For Medicare and Social Security to remain solvent, the U.S. government would have to invest over $220 trillion right now, and get a roughly five percent rate of return. Medicare alone accounts for easily 80% of that. And the American public wont tolerate even a two-year extension of the retirement age.

Meanwhile, they think successful people owe them money. Someone who earns, say, $300K per year does so not because of political connections or cronyism. Those people earn in the millions. The $300K guy is the person who worked his tail off over many years of serving the public in some valuable way. And complete strangers think they have the right to a portion of his life. Of five days of this guys labor, these people feel entitled to at least two of them. A total stranger to them. He owes them at least 40% of his life.

(Incidentally, add up the sales taxes people pay every day, plus the extra-high taxes for parking and hotels, plus state income taxes, plus property taxes, plus gas taxes, plus all the taxes you see listed on your cable bill, and on and on, and your tax payment winds up a lot higher than whatever federal income tax rate happens to hit you.)