Does anyone know if and when you can start downloading Overwatch if purchased as a UK customer (that being what I am) from the PSN? Given the cost to travel to town and buy the thing I'm probably better off digitally purchasing, but the PSN has dreadful download speeds and I would need to get a headstart in time to play on release day.

Thanks.

@wiouds: if you're asking me whether i think that the things gamers say about games and during gaming is representative of gamers opinions about games and gaming, then yes.

@illmatic87:My experience includes CoD and fighting games like MK (i'm sure i'd include SFV if it actually worked). It doesn't really matter what games though. Overwatch looks like it won't be following this trend in the sense that it doesn't have systems that reward people for being awesome at the expense of others. That's my beef with CoD, the killstreak system is a terribad idea.

I would just like to see more effort made to accomodate people that are CASUAL. There's nothing wrong with that, and not everyone plays games professionally, nor wants to

i think you've just validated my point.

How many posts should I have before I can make these kinds of comment?

I broadly agree: but it's developers that can try and design things differently.

When did gaming get so earnest? Now even the word 'casual' is an insult!

I thought gaming was meant to be fun. It's great that people want to play games and learn them, like with fight games, but the moment you go online...whoosh! All bets are off and everything gets turned up to 11. It's all so hardcore.

I don't care for this at all. I just cannot get into that mindset and I'm just not prepared to spend all my time treating learning to play a game as if it were a job.

I think developers need to work on trying to accomodate different attitudes, rather than forcing everyone into a shark pool.

I picked this up second hand yesterday, rather foolishly hoping they'd actually fixed the online at least.

Three months on and I still cannot connect. I have managed to log in 3 times in all the time i've played. Not once have i completed a match. Each time I have been disconnected with an error message 2100d or some such.

How is this even legal? Obviously there's nothing I can do about this since I brought it second hand. That said I am fuming; all the fanboys dismissed these complaints and insulted anyone who pointed this out. All i want is a working video game. I've downloaded the latest (7gb!) patch with Alex. Yet they clearly haven't even bothered to address this issue, which I know affects other players since i've seen other comments on the capcom unity forum. Threads they just ignore of course.

This is why I complain about game journalism. The retailers don't care - GAME in the UK just took the attitude that refunding customers was unacceptable because, of course, it would get patched. Clearly not. The devs don't care, despite posting crap on twitter and fcebook. Noce once have they addressed it and I never got a reply when I initially complained - 3 months ago!

This is beyond ridiculous. How are companies just being allowed to get away with this with scant effort to hold them to account? Customers - players - don't stand a chance, we just get ignored.

Where are these people questioning directly the industry and it's crappy adherents? Why is no one asking for example Treyarch why, yet again, Call of Duty is a broken mess with dreadful balance stupid scorestreak system horrible hit detection and dreadful netcode? Why were servers promised and not delivered? Why is the industry allowed to get away with this crap? Instead of a fun game it's been taken over by shrieking kids not old enough to buy the game and MLG/hardcore idiots that have transformed online gaming into a vipers nest of uber competitive misogynist crap.

None of this is ever ever questioned.

I don't care how many writers there are or how good they are. If someone wants to start a blog, that's their business. What I want is for those representing this hobby to do their job otherwise what's the point. Noone said it was easy, but so what? You want to be in the journalism business, go be a journalist! The world doesn't need any more let's plays.

I agree. That's what I'm saying: journos don't want to bite the hand that feeds.

I think gaming has taken a real nose dive. It's dominated by consumer unfriendly corporate decisions and dominated by attitudes that exclude the casual player as if being 'casual' isn't enough.