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#1 yarharfiddledee
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what I'm saying is that when you buy a 120Hz monitor, it will work on any card. The 3D right now is only possible with nVidia, but you don't need one of those to make the monitor work.

If you want 3D, you will need a 120Hz monitor.smc91352
But I'm NOT GOING TO BUY A MONITOR FIRST. I do NOT currently have a desktop right now, and accordingly, my FIRST priority is choosing GPU(s). Again, this is all up in the air for me, so I'll wait until after the holiday season and see what this turns into.
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#2 yarharfiddledee
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[QUOTE="yarharfiddledee"]one of the things I want to do is get Nvidia cards that support 3d, so I have the option to get a 3d display later...smc91352
nonono, you do it in reverse. The monitor will work with ATi cards, the monitor is needed for the 3D; 3D is not needed for the monitor.

Uh, no, I don't know what ATi cards support 3d yet... so I can only buy the cards I know that support 3d, the Nvidias. I'm talking about what I'd do if I had to make my purchase right now. I'm building from the ground-up, I'm not upgrading an existing system.
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#3 yarharfiddledee
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a new cataylst control center UI with more tools and OS3D arrives!!

OS3D will function with games (digital downlaod & retail) and movies (dvd and blu-ray) and on (essentially)ANY 1.4a hdmi monitor/tv

they will sell a kit for it for roughly 50-70 bucks and will be compatible with the following cards (that ati chose to disclose)

dx11: hd 5850, hd 5870, hd 5970

dx10: hd 4870x2

we can also therefore assume that the 5830, 4850x2 will take to it, and possibly even the hd 5700 and 4800 series will also support it.

now here is the real kicker nvidia 3d vision glasses may even work with ati's system! im talking in theory according to the information they disclosed their open source 3d allows for alternative glasses to work with it meaning technically speaking nvidia 3d glasses work while it doesnt work backwards.

http://www.digitalversus.com/3d-films-and-games-with-glasses-from-ati-before-christmas-article-1086.html

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Interesting... I guess I'll wait till next year to build my gaming rig, because one of the things I want to do is get Nvidia cards that support 3d, so I have the option to get a 3d display later... but now ATI might be releasing their own solution... dammit.
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#5 yarharfiddledee
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Don't be so quick to discount AMD -- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-versus-i7,2360-13.html I plan on building a rig with a Phenom II X4 simply because it'll give me the extra financial freedom to put in two highest-end GPUs for SLI or Crossfire instead of one highest-end card or two lower-end ones. When a comparable i7 outperforms its nearest AMD counterpart, it's all of a few frames -- and again, with the money you save, you then can spend on graphics cards that let you fill those frames with even better detail.
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#7 yarharfiddledee
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I realize that 'looking better' is relative, so that's the reason for the second part of my question; from what I understand, Crysis was completely overengineered to take advantage of technologies just emerging at the time of its release (quad-core support and multi-GPU systems), and even today gives systems that cost thousands of dollar pause when running at highest settings, 16xQ AA, and max resolution. So, my question is: Does Crysis remain the far-and-away 'best' game yet made in terms of sheer graphical intensity? Or have other games come along that eat system resources even more hungrily?
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#8 yarharfiddledee
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[QUOTE="BDK-Soft"]Physx is so utterly useless, but if you have a spare nvidia card why not use it as a dedicated physx card? You may need to use old nvidia drivers because if you have an ati card in your system, nvidia will disable physx. What a bunch of morons.

I don't have a spare card, this is me using the site I linked (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Dual_Core_Configurator/) to build a computer. But PhysX is useless? Okay, then, won't bother with that...
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#9 yarharfiddledee
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Of the options that you listed, I say defnitely the dual GTS 250 option, if they're the 1GB variety. That's still a pretty beastly setup.

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Okay, I figured that much. And a PhysX GPU will ONLY affect games with PhysX features, yes? So I'm not losing out much if I don't get it but never play games with PhysX? (also, DirectX11 -- isn't the lack of DX11 support from the GT and GTSs bad for futureproofing? Or what's the deal on that)? Also, bear in mind I'm new to desktop building, even with a site holding my hand -- what's the deal with PSU? The site (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com, btw) has a little recommendation box for power supply, and there are tons of options. Now... is more power better? I think I understand, after Googling it of course, that having enough power will allow the cooling systems to run at full-tilt when needed or something... erm... just what is it for, and why is underpowering a computer bad? And can I OVERPOWER it, which would be just as bad? This question is actually pretty severe for me, because the site has a solid 20 options of PSU, spread across 5 or 6 different wattages....
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#10 yarharfiddledee
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[QUOTE="karriston"][QUOTE="yarharfiddledee"][QUOTE="karriston"]Can't get a desktop, will need portability. Like I said, I wasn't expecting miracles, but "Not really good for gaming at all" is a bit vague. What sort of performance could I expect on the aforementioned games? Medium? Low? Not capable of running them at all? If anyone can can show me a better alternative, I'd be eternally grateful. I may be able to extend my budget to 600 pounds.

The computer's just designed for a different crowd. Its price is based on how amazingly efficient it is in terms of battery life and physical size... not performance. I don't know its pricing in the UK, but look for an Asus K50ID-X1. I got one from Newegg a few months back for $650 US, and if conversion rates are what I remember them being, you should be able to get similar pricing there. With it, I can handle any Source game (which would include TF2) on high settings across the board, and Crysis on decent settings (with, of course, resolution at lowest and no AA, but it still looks gorgeous). When not gaming, it gets around an hour and a half of battery power on my current power settings (full performance or whatever), and bear in mind that I have given it a beefier core as well. I've had it last for a good 3 hours when I had the power settings to battery saving.

Thank you very much, don't know where the hardware forum gets the reputation for being a noob-eating monster :) I Googled the Asus K50ID-X1 and couldn't find anywhere in the UK selling it = / I did, however, find this: How is this in comparison? Sorry if I seem a little idiotic on the subject, I've always relied on family to buy computers for me. Thanks for any help and advice :)

Check my post, I edited it before your reply with a link I found to the model I gave you on Amazon UK. And when you're buying a computer for gaming, the first thing you look at should be the GPU, really, and with the one you found: # Graphics - X4500M This is an Intel integrated GPU, and trust me, if you want gaming -- you do NOT want integrated graphics, you want DEDICATED. The GT320m is a rebranded 9600M GT, iirc, which was a good mobile gaming card in its day.
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