i have been a gamer for 13 years now, and believe me when i say video games have come a long way but there is something i need to get off my chest, i have no credit card but i have an xbox and a high speed internat connection, but yet i can't get on to xbox live because of theneed of a credit card, i mean when playing with my ps2 online "i don't need a credit card same with some computer games," why is there the need for a credit card if there is already a subscription card that you could buy for a mear 50/year. so my conclusion is, someone needs to make the people at mirosoft see the the credit card is only limmiting users from accessing live

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