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#1 zAhMaDz
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Heaven lieth at the feet of mothers

Every good act is charity

Do you love your creator? Love your fellow-beings first

One hour's meditation on the work of the Creator is better than seventy years of prayer

The acquisition of knowledge is a duty incumbent on every Muslim, male and female

A Muslim who mixeth with people and beareth inconveniences, is better than one who doth not mix with them and beareth no inconveniences

Feed the hungry and visit the sick, and free the captive, if he be unjustly confined. Assist any person oppressed, whether Muslim or non-Muslim

He is not strong and powerful who throweth people down but he is strong who witholdeth himself from anger

An adultress passed by a dog at a well and the dog was holding out his tongue from thirst, which was near killing him, and the woman drew off her boot, and tied it to the end of her garment, and drew water for the dog, and gave him to drink and she was forgiven for that act

Almsgiving is duty unto you. Alms should be taken from the rich and returned to the poor

To listen to the words of the learned, and to instil into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises

What an evil guy.

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#2 zAhMaDz
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I guess Muhammad sucks..

Heaven lieth at the feet of mothers

Every good act is charity

Do you love your creator? Love your fellow-beings first

One hour's meditation on the work of the Creator is better than seventy years of prayer

The acquisition of knowledge is a duty incumbent on every Muslim, male and female

A Muslim who mixeth with people and beareth inconveniences, is better than one who doth not mix with them and beareth no inconveniences

Feed the hungry and visit the sick, and free the captive, if he be unjustly confined. Assist any person oppressed, whether Muslim or non-Muslim

He is not strong and powerful who throweth people down but he is strong who witholdeth himself from anger

An adultress passed by a dog at a well and the dog was holding out his tongue from thirst, which was near killing him, and the woman drew off her boot, and tied it to the end of her garment, and drew water for the dog, and gave him to drink and she was forgiven for that act

Almsgiving is duty unto you. Alms should be taken from the rich and returned to the poor

To listen to the words of the learned, and to instil into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises




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#3 zAhMaDz
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Seems legit

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I don't know, Gallup is a pretty reputable for polling

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Click here

thoughts? surprised/not surpised?

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Not sure about the exact consequences, but like the other Abrahamic religions it is definitely frowned upon

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#6 zAhMaDz
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[QUOTE="zAhMaDz"]

Anyone else hate the idea of a nursing home? I've always been shocked by how people decide to put their parents into nursing homes. Anyone else think that once your parents get old that YOU should be the one caring for you as they were the ones who cared for you when you were growing up? Or am I just too old-school?

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Pretty tough to take care of an adult, whom requires 24/7 care, when you have to go to work for 8 hours in order to keep your house, pay the bills, etc. Who's going to make sure they go to the bathroom, don't escape from the house to go on an adventure, or wipe their rear ends when you're not around?

True, but didn't your parents take time out of work themselves in order to make sure you went to the bathroom, didn't escape the house, and to wipe your rear ends when you were young? If your parents were kind enough to take time out of work to care for you when you were little, why should you not take time out of work to care for them?
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Anyone else hate the idea of a nursing home? I've always been shocked by how people decide to put their parents into nursing homes. Anyone else think that once your parents get old that YOU should be the one caring for you as they were the ones who cared for you when you were growing up? Or am I just too old-school?

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[QUOTE="zAhMaDz"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

Can't we be realistic and say both? Islam does have an effect on Saudi Arabia, to an extremely large extent. Like I said, its naive to think otherwise. Its a theocracy.

HoolaHoopMan

It's pretty obvious that all laws that are sexist completely contradict what is said in the Quran as women are considered equal to men. It's supported in countless verses in the Quran, i'm sure you wouldn't have trouble finding any. So, isn't it naive to completely ignore what is actually said in the Quran and then base your arguments on a country that, let's be honest, is an extremely poor representation of Islam itself?

And yet millions of Muslims would vehemently disagree with you, again we're getting into No True Scotsman territory. Claiming one another aren't 'true' Muslims or that they aren't interpreting things correctly. Why don't you do me a favor, what country would be a GOOD representation of what Islam represents? It seems that every answer I'm going to give you will be met with the same dodge techniques. If we take a good look at the vast majority of predominately Muslim nations they have the same tendency to keep women in subordinate roles and limit their personal freedoms.

I'm sure millions Christians, Jews, athiests, etc. would disagree with me too. What's your point? No country is a good representation of what Islam represents. Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. all fuse their own cultural beliefs and create their own version of Islam, which is not the same Islam in the Quran. Once again, you seem to be ignoring the fact that the reason why most Muslim nations seem to have sexist laws is because of the influence of their cultural history (long, before Islam), rather than Islam itself.

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So you think Islam has more influence on these sexist laws (which completely contradict sayings of Muhammad as well as the Quran) rather than the fact that society in Saudi Arabia has long been patriarchal?

HoolaHoopMan

Can't we be realistic and say both? Islam does have an effect on Saudi Arabia, to an extremely large extent. Like I said, its naive to think otherwise. Its a theocracy.

It's pretty obvious that all laws that are sexist completely contradict what is said in the Quran as women are considered equal to men. It's supported in countless verses in the Quran, i'm sure you wouldn't have trouble finding any. So, isn't it naive to completely ignore what is actually said in the Quran and then base your arguments on a country that, let's be honest, is an extremely poor representation of Islam itself?
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#10 zAhMaDz
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[QUOTE="zAhMaDz"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] I didn't say it was. He told me to mention an example of a Muslim country that has large gender inequalities, I did. HoolaHoopMan

Do you really think Islam is the reason why Saudi Arabia is like this?

Its a large part, yes. Nothing is ever black and white, and most times culture and Religion go hand in hand. Its naive to think that Islam doesn't have a hand in their out dated sexist laws.

So you think Islam has more influence on these sexist laws (which completely contradict sayings of Muhammad as well as the Quran) rather than the fact that society in Saudi Arabia has long been patriarchal?