Dota 2 Diaries - Part 4: Humans Vs. Unfairness

In an effort to teach by showing, Zorine plays a match against unfair bots while answering a wealth of community questions without fully realising what she's getting herself into. Follow us on Twitter and Twitch @GameSpot_AU!

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Dota 2 is one of the biggest names in PC gaming and eSports, but the learning curve is notoriously steep and unforgiving. Join Dota veteran Zorine as she teaches Ed the ropes from the very beginning.

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actually Force Staff is really good on Blood Seeker and very popular , it's a sure kill on supports or any hero with low hit points , and a much needed escape mechanism for Blood Seeker . if you get a decent farm you should be able to get it under 15 minutes ( + power treads and other early game items ) . later on you can get your other core items with the gold from kills ...

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@hatespark1234 The popularity of an item with a hero does not make it good. Blookseeker does not need any Int, and should be building toward damage items (Radiance, S&Y) or Endurance (BKB) instead of wasting money on a force staff.Also consider the damage you're actually inflicting: 600(distance moved) x 20%/40%/60% (Level of the ult) equals out to 120/240/360 damage. Simply put, it isn't worth it.

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@Zaknaifen damage items do nothing for BS early game cause he just gets nuked to oblivion . Dota is a game when milliseconds matters sometimes ... with a force staff you can get the kill and get out of there asap and wait for another low hp hero and chase him down without falling to the heat of battle . ( cause you get first kill very fast and you get healed for it too ) . also a really early BKB also hurts you in the long run when you get only 5 seconds ...

of course if you get an amazing farm you should go for Radiance which i over-powered for early game , but Force Staff is always good .

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A quick observation from the 2nd game, since the first was kind of a wash...those unfair bots are mean.

- Sniper shouldn't be auto-attacking or using his volley early in the game to push the lane. You want the creep wave to stay closer to the middle to cut down on your opponent's ganking opportunities and to put you in a better position if your team ganks (example: when Blood Seeker had invisibility, and couldn't position himself behind Razor since the lane was pushed too far forward). Double carry lanes are messy :-/

- A Bloodseeker using a Force Staff (an item you buy in the shop) is just plain bad. You shouldn't have to make an item to force your ultimate to do damage. (no pun intended) For those of you that don't know, Rupture (Blood Seeker's ult) causes the targeted hero to bleed out, dealing damage based on distance they travel while under the effect. Thus, if you stand still, you will not take any damage. The force staff lets you push a targeted hero, thus forcing the rupture damage upon them. Long story short, don't do it.

Anyhow, nice work with the new video. It will be awesome once valve finishes up the game and the mentor program is created, but this is a solid place to start for people wondering what's up with this game.

Is Ed going to be playing with fans in the future?

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@Zaknaifen Hello again Zaknaifen!

Thanks for the tips. The Sniper on our team only started DOTA 2 recently, so essentially is learning along with Ed!

We do intend to get some games in with community members next week - we'll be calling for DOTA 2 players on twitter @Gamespot_au so stay tuned! Do bear in mind we play on the US West server at 6pm EST.

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@Zorine @Gamespot_au as long as it's 6 PM EST and not AEST, then we're good.

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Zorine, in part 5, could you teach Ed to play other heroes and roles than just Drow Ranger? This isn't LoL where you pick what you please. Instead you gotta pick what your team needs.

P.S. Also teach Ed shift-queueing so he can play Sand King :)

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@Rox-pox You don't need shift queueing for sand king - just fast fingers

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@Rox-pox

That doesn't make any sense.

If everyone only picked what the team needs then no one would pick anything.

Needs are determined by someone taking the initiative to pick what they want to play. And why should someone have to choose to play something they don't want to play? People pickup and play games for their own enjoyment, not to fill the role that a bot could have filled just as well.

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@CommodoreRaslin You play DOTA 2 for fun and teamwork, and picking 4-5 carries per team isn't teamwork. Any good player will hate you for thinking like that.

Secondly winning is more fun than losing, so teamwork all the way.

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@CommodoreRaslin Depends on the person. I absolutely will try to pick a hero that I think will help the team win. If I see 3 people picked carries already, I will not be picking a carry, I'll pick a support hero. First of all, I prefer to get a win as a team rather than play exactly the hero I had in mind and second, if everyone picks what they want to play, they're far more likely to lose and thus NOT get much enjoyment out of the game.

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@Rox-pox

relax he's just started. one champ at a time let em enjoy the experience. this game was meant to be fun.

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@elancion Guess how I started playing MOBA games? By practising at least 1 hero of each role. Anyone who wants to win games should learn to pick properly and continuously relying on Drow is bad.

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I just got into the game thanks to this series so thanks guys! On a side note, Zorine, you bought Boots of Speed at the base and sent a courier to bring them to you at bot lane... you could've just bought them at the Side Shop that's right next to you and you'd get them faster and not take up the courier =) You probably know that but thought I'd mention it.

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i m lovin it

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SMITE ftw

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Dota 2 Diaries has become like my regular internet show :) I come back every week to watch it, right on from Dota 2 Diaries 1.

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@rahul4life Thank you for your support rahul4life! It means a lot to us!

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