GS News - GTA V Has FPS Mode, Is Call of Duty Smoother On Xbox One?

GTA V’s first-person mode and resolutions are revealed, Advanced Warfare framerates get compared, and would you play a multiplayer-only Dragon Age?

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oh good, another add on that isn't heists -_-

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PS4 = 1920x1080 = 2073600 pixels

X1 = 1360x1080 = 1468800 pixels

If numbers aren't enough for you to tell the difference, compare the screenshots on this page - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-multiplayer-performance-analysis

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oh. damn. i had zero intention of buying gta5, now i have like 5% because of that fps mode.

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Fps mode in GTAV looks amazing especially in flight. Dragon age multi-player only; no don't do that multi-player works well with games like Diablo and Borderlands but not a story/character driven game. Not interested in Cod but would rather have a decent frame rate than a few extra pixels.

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Rockstar is a company that rarely disappoints.They just know how to make gamers happy while always evolving.If rockstar had made destiny it would have been 50 times better.

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Edited By climber207

These is all a bout a crappie game, of course the game runs 60 fps on XO you can see how bad is the port for the other console the same on pc versions. You guys should play Battlefield the port for each console its just perfect.

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And everyone just seems to believe that the framerate on xbox one never drops below 60 ps and the graph showed? Please, there is no such thing as 100% performance 100% of the time for any piece of software, that's just not how things work.

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@riotinto876 Why not? On XBO it runs under 1360x1080, while on PS4 -1920x1080.

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@riotinto876 i'm pretty sure quake2 never drops under 1500 fps on my pc, let alone 60.

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@GraveUypo @riotinto876 I can assure you it does, it floats between at least 1496 and 1500 and in no way stays at 1500 at all times.

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@riotinto876 @GraveUypo for a game to run at pretty much fixed 60fps, the average frame rate is usually over 90. if the average frame rate is 60, then it probably dips into the 40's all the time.

same for 30fps games. they all probably would run at 40+ average fps if the frames were unlocked.

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@riotinto876 @GraveUypo it floats around 3000fps. the biggest of dips is still way over 1500

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And everyone just seems to believe that the framerate on xbox one never drops below 60 ps and the graph showed? Please, there is no such thing as 100

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It's also blurred and low res most of the time

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Edited By Gencic

COD debate: XB1 or PS4. It mainly boils down to:

- What console offers best online services

- What console offers best online play


For me it's XB1 as most of my friends are on there. However other people will disagree. And... there is the pissy master race.

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@Gencic Did you adopt new friends knowing all the other ones were going to buy PS4?

Its changed big times, 2 years ago If you went back EVERYONE had an Xbox 360 but now with the new consoles its Sony which is dominating the headlines and sales.

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@Keitha313 @Gencic All my friends still have XB1's as a primary system. Some of them have PS4 as well, like myself. Playing CoD:AW on XB1 however as the online and the controller is better for me with this game.

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I will buy Dragon Age as long as they have made the game more open. If you are fixed to single corridors to run down again like in the first two I won't be getting it.

I'm okay with more linear RPGs but Dragon Age was basically a corridor when you weren't in a city. Same way Mass Effect is a corridor when not in the Citadel. Get that sh*t sorted Bioware.

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@Dannystaples14 From all the twitch videos I saw on the Bioware channel, the landscape design is a lot like Kingdom of Amalur (who never got its due, BTW). You get huge maps, and if you stick to paths and roads, you are less likely to encounter enemies; or you can go through the wild. The more I see from the game, the more excited I am. Two weeks still, I'm gonna die!! I'm stuck with NHL on ps4 for now; playing Origins (again) on ps3 to try to hold on...

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Yes 4K is supported on the PC cant wait for it!!

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@dave70292 Whats it cost for a rig to run at 4K with monitor, just curious.

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@steve427 @dave70292 More then $500, that's for sure. Plus an expensive monitor or 4K HDTV. They can have it.

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"The framerate drop for 60fps to 40 something for a few seconds here and there. . ."

And no one is going to notice or care that much when they're playing the game.


No GTA V first, second, or third person for me. Wait, I already played the game with it's 3.25 endings. It's not worth anybody's time. It might be worth one play through just to satisfy your curiosity, but you have far too much time on your hands or no other games to play if you want to play it again.


Thank you Jess. You're the best.

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@SaintsRowLA Framerate drops do bug me, not enough that I wouldn't play a game, but still I like to avoid them if I can.


Skate standouts out for me as one the games that I really noticed Framerate drops, being a game where timing was everything the framerate drops were annoying. I also didn't enjoy Ghosts as much as I had previous COD's because of intermittent framerate drops.

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@pointingmonkey

Good post.

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@SaintsRowLA I disagree with you on GTA V, I cannot wait to get back in there on current gen and experience the entire game again and then again on PC later, speak for yourself.

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@XBlade1X

I wish you a lot fun. NyQuil is much less expensive--just kidding.

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im happy I got it on my XO and not on my PS4 :)

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Edited By elreddiablo

Ps. now that I got a PS4 I cant hate on it like I use to :)

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@elreddiablo

PS4 = 1920x1080 = 2073600 pixels

X1 = 1360x1080 = 1468800 pixels

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-multiplayer-performance-analysis

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@dcno07 @elreddiablo afaik 1360x1080 is the minimum res the xbox one version runs at, and it changes dynamically. granted it'll mostly hover around 1500x1080 and under, but saying flatout its 1360x1080 is the same as saying the ps4 runs a 40fps.

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@dcno07 @elreddiablo turns out multiplayer is fixed at 1360x1080. i wonder if that's better than 1600x900. i mean, it's about the same number of pixels but the horizontal resolution is considerably smaller.

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@GraveUypo @dcno07 @elreddiablo There really isn't a big difference. Personally I would prefer 1600x900 to 1360x1080 just because the pixels seem to get a little distorted or blurry. But I don't know much about the dynamic scaling aspect so maybe it was a better decision.

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@dcno07 I'm guessing that @elreddiablo prefers his games to run more stable e.g. more stable framerate than have a game which looks slightly more pretty but has a unstable framerate, ruining the gameplay.

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Edited By dcno07

@pointingmonkey @dcno07 @elreddiablo First of all if a few dips to 48fps is "ruining gameplay" about 60% of X1's games are complete sh!t since they run at 30fps. Second, I wasn't saying i prefer a prettier game to a more stable game, PS4 just happens to accomplish both. Watch how many times PS4 drops to 48fps (the lowest it drops(still higher than the majority of X1 games)) and tell me that is even noticeable.

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@dcno07 The difference being with the Xbox One games is that they run constantly at 30fps, they don't jump around between 30-10fps. Why do you think games like Killzone Shadow Fall and Infamous Second Son, released patches to lock the framerate at 30fps if the person chooses to. Framerate drops are a completely different animal to a game running steadily at 30fps as opposed to 60fps.


As I said in the post above I'm all for a game sticking with 30fps if it can't handle 60fps stably. As a matter of fact I said as much in a comment on a previous GS News about Assassin's Creed Unity being locked at 30fps.


A framerate drop is not so much noticeable when you are watching a video of someone playing the game, but when it's in your hands it's very noticeable. The amount of videos I seen of Jeff Gerstmann where he has complained about framerate drops is pretty high, and to say that guy doesn't know what he's talking about would be ridiculous.


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@pointingmonkey I guess you have to be a very special person for that to ruin the gameplay

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@Morphine_OD @pointingmonkey a very special indeed
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Edited By PointingMonkey

@Morphine_OD Couldn't I say the same about people who love pretty graphics over a stable framerate?


Fluctuating framerate has a far bigger effect on gameplay than the resolution. Especially a game like COD where reflexes mean everything.

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@pointingmonkey you do understand that 30 fps is 32 milliseconds per frame and 60 fps is 16 milliseconds per frame? You don't have reflexes that fast. 30 fps is already pretty smooth, 60 fps while smoother, doesn't really hinder your performance. Your muscles do. It's not like anyone EVER lost a game because of 30 fps. EVER.

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Edited By PointingMonkey

@Morphine_OD @pointingmonkey I do understand that, but it still can be very annoying when the framerate drops, Battlefield 4 was a prime example of a game which felt horrible because of framerate drops, it looked great yes but the framerate was all over the place and I personally found that very off putting when playing.


This isn't about the framerate being low, it's about the framrate dropping, I'm all for locking the framerate at 30fps if it improves the overall package. But with the PS4 COD having a framerate of 60 and then dropping to as low as 42fps during certain actions is very off putting. While the Xbox One has slight less than 1080p visuals but can keep a framerate up around 60fps constantly.


All I was saying was to me and I'm guessing @elreddiablo a constant 60fps (or 30fps if necessary) is better than slightly prettier visuals. Obviously you prefer eye candy over gameplay, but each to their own.

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@pointingmonkey


Sledgehammer could just put a patch in to stabilize the PS4 frame rate, it can handle the 1080p and 60fps steady, but they are always in a hurry to get a new COD out every year!

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Edited By PointingMonkey

@ramtracker42 @pointingmonkey Hopefully they do. But I think a framerate lock option, like Killzone Shadow Fall or Infamous Second Son is probably more likely.

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PS4 has harder time keeping 60fps because it's running 1080p? So XBO isn't?

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@Wogrim X1 is 1360x1080

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ps4 look better than xbox one dark still suck....


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While the PS4 looks washed out and you can see what's in corner of what is a dark building because it always looks like you have a flashlight

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@broly180 The colours on Xbox always seem to look richer and more vibrant. Always.

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"..and yes you did absolutely hear that the right way around" Heheh, nice :)


GTA5 first person was defn the big news for me, and I will definitely give it a shot but I'm not sure how it will feel.

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