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This generation of consoles has just been a HUGE disappointment. I will definitely be sticking with PC from now on.

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Do u think the gamers will buy your words ? Huge disappintment ? Lol Dont make me laugh . Pc gamers are mad because most of the great exclusives are for consoles only. Also developers are focusing on consoles. Ps4 and xbox are powerful enough to compete with high end pc (see digital foundry ) the high end pc is slightly better than ps4 and xbox one .

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@Devil_78 A 7.50 steam game called Mount & Blade is by far the most addictive and one of the best games I've ever played. Playing on a midrange 5 year old PC. Though I have both systems (no wii u), I'd rather spend 4000 hours on indie steam gems then most of the crap on consoles.

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@Devil_78 "Ps4 and xbox are powerful enough to compete with high end pc"

lol, now you're making ME laugh!!! a high end PC is more than just "slightly" better than current consoles. that's like saying a Ferrari is only slightly faster than a rider mower.

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Did you see watch dogs ps4 vs pc by digitalfoundry ? Or tomb raider ? To me its like ferrari and porsche. Give me evidence not just words !!! . There is no need to hate we all gamers !!

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@Devil_78 Somebody doesn't know about graphics mods...

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@Devil_78 Try looking again...the company released Watch Dogs with graphics LOCKED and they have since been unlocked thanks to a PLAYER MODDING IT and it shamed Ubisoft so badly they released a patch unlocking the graphics.

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@Devil_78 I'm not hating. It's true that some games look very similar between pc and console but that is simply because the devs made it that way. if full optimization was considered for each platform, PC would be miles ahead of consoles. and this definitely shows in some games. I agree that consoles generally have better optimization but when they are only pushing 720p (sometimes 1080p) at 30-50 fps, that's old tech which is why i say this generation is so disappointing. My PC pushes 1440p at 96 fps on the newest games at the highest settings and it's 2 years old! big difference.

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I was a pc gamer myself . I played my first pc game (knightmare) in 1986 so i dont hate pc . I had alianware x14 r2 and i sold it maybe because im with consoles for 25 years . Now there were a big difference between pc and the last generation but not this generation . Also its not always about resolution . For example nes games were more fun then sega and snes games . Wii outsold ps3 and xbox 360 and its not even hd . Im not saying graghic isnt important its very important but its not the only thing in gaming world . There are many gamers want simple machine to play .

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@popin-shopin Seems like the safe bet so far.

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I see this as a desperate attempt by Microsoft to try and catch up in console sells with PS4 at the expense of Square Enix and the Tomb Raider franchise. This gambit hasn't paid off for Microsoft simply because the outrage was so great that the secret of it being a timed exclusive couldn't be kept under wraps long enough for them to benefit from the exclusive.

Some people will just wait it out and see what happens others are so pissed that they will NEVER buy another Microsoft or Square Enix product EVER. ( I'm in this camp ) I don't think its wrong to try and compete with Sony, but the way Microsoft went about it was totally WRONG. They should have come out with their OWN exclusive IP and not highjacked a franchise that has ALWAYS been a multi-platform game.

I also think that if Square Enix doesn't do some damage control really really fast and find some way to limit or get out of this deal that this could be the finally nail in the coffin of the Tomb Raider franchise. I personally still hope the game comes to PS4 I'd love to play it but I won't be buying it new I'll buy it from some second hand shop just to keep the profits from going to Square Enix.

They have lost my trust after giving the worldwide gaming community the big middle finger ! It's going to take years to earn it back if it can be earned back. I think sometimes these game designers forget that its US who keep them in business and without us they be working for Google. They need to remember to never lose the plus of the gaming community and to ALWAYS listen to the gaming community for we are a vocal bunch and we have no problem saying how we feel or in telling them what we like and what we don't and why !

The Change.org petition has over 12,000 gaming voices on it from gamers all around the world. I have to say reading all those comments from all over the world gave me a sense of pride as I saw us come together from Russian to China to the UK to the US and everywhere in-between. We are the gaming Industry and not the people who simple serve us and make the games we enjoy and ANY gaming company that loses sight of that is destined for trouble. Thank You to all who signed and made their voice heard.

I'm hoping us PS4 players will get the change to play this game, while i'm not completely sure we will at this point as Spencer was vague in his comments only saying that ROTTR "could" go the way of Ryse and Dead Rising meaning coming to PC. Nothing was said about the ROTTR coming to PS4 we see.

Lastly please remember that while we have our console battles NOT all issues are about that like this one it's a gaming community issue. Remember Caring is Sharing and Sharing is Caring thats how sharing works !! Play ON !

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@Snapdragon1 giddy up pony

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i really dont think 12,000 is even enough to make anyone flinch, and dont believe thats why spencer was truthful, i mean you can believe that if you want but its not announced for any other platform, calling it exclusive holiday 2015 is still true....

i think people that wont ever buy a SE or MS game anymore because of this are entitled little brats that need a life, and now your beggin to be able to play this the same time as everyone else..its pathetic.

theres been more outrage over this move than there is fans of them game, most of just little kids wanting to whine about something because everyone else is doing it, some are doing it just because MS done it, but hey, call it how you want, we know you guys love turning anything negative....

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@Snapdragon1 This is extremely lame. Buy an Xbox if you have a problem with it. So many people getting their panties in a bundle because they don't want to swallow their pride.


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@Snapdragon1 "Caring is Sharing and Sharing is Caring" You're a carebear..!

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Still not time for me. Neither is PS4. There's no games out now that I want to buy and the only games coming in 2014 that interest me are also coming out on PS3/360 and the only difference is resolution, something I'm fine with not spending $400 just to get.


I need a library of stuff I want to play. Buying for games that aren't out yet and sometimes so far off that there isn't even a release date seems silly to me. It's a damn near guaranteed way to get burned when bundles and price cuts come later. Plus, there's nothing to play so the console is just collecting dust being used purely for Netflix and other non-gaming stuff that you could do just as well on an old-gen system.

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The UI is excellent. You're just another sheep that's burnt on Windows 8 because it's OMG CHANGE. It doesn't get in the way, looks great, and is customizable.


Nobody's trying to knock you down when it comes to power because you don't understand it and that's pretty obvious. You think RAM and GDDR3 and think you have any idea of what you're talking about. It's a hopeless cause.

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@saltlife225 The UI is $hit, Rory. Even worse are the DL and Install speeds, which is a joke.

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@Pupchu @saltlife225 Oh okay. Yeah, not the same thing. This is literally streaming live TV broadcasts, which is pretty awesome.

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@saltlife225 @Pupchu Wait, why do I need live TV streamed to my smartphone if I am at home near my TV again? The thing cant stream to your phone if you are not near it...


There is this crazy thing called Hulu already that allows you to stream almost any show to any mobile device.

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@saltlife225 @Pupchu like...oh men gawd! That is like soooo cool. I just cannot WAIT to watch BASIC ass TV when I could just spend my time on Netflix or playing a cool game.

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I have DirecTV. And I'm an adult. The thought of watching local TV stations, TBS, and football games live (without having to pay for the extra DirecTV package)?


Awesome.

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@saltlife225 @Pupchu pwned

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I was entertained by this video. Kudos to Danny and for the music at the end.

Personally, I think that Microsoft is sitting on a glorious dev tool in the form of Kinect 2.0. The original Kinect was used mostly as a dev tool once people got their hands on the SDK, resulting in applications like drone tracking, simplified robot vision, and a cheap 3D scanner for 3D printing and modeling. The Kinect 2.0 is a much more sophisticated device with more tools, so Microsoft needs to announce an SDK for that thing. That is a cool device (not as a controller, which it isn't, but as a configurable human-machine interface).

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@amdreallyfast They have an SDK for it already...

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@saltlife225 @amdreallyfast Nm I found it. While not hidden, it didn't seem to be advertised either. Also, it was only released in the past couple months, so it's pretty new.

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@saltlife225 @amdreallyfast O rly...I've been trying to find it for awhile but haven't heard anything about it.

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@amdreallyfast Kinect 2.0 = ROB the Robot

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@mprince131 the UI is clunky, get's in the way, looks ugly and simply doesn't work for a PC or console...the UI killed the 360 as well.....

PS4's UI makes more sense...whatever you play is always going to be moved to the front unless there's a disc in the machine then if you played a digital game or whatever it'll be second when you restart...

all of the game functions are on the bottom row with all system functions and network stuff is on the upper row and it isn't intrusive....

XBOX is junk plain and simple..frankly I'm surprised you aren't trying to knock me down because of the system power lol obviously that's a lost cause and this UI issues and what not is easier to argue about lol fanboys...

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@MJ12-Conspiracy @mprince131 I dont think you have ever used the Xbox UI.. it puts recent things on the first screen as well as direct access to your game catalog. You pin your favorite apps to a screen that is one touch away... but who cares about any of that because you can just say what you want to do and you are doing it.

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@amorrell14 Or you could just talk to it and not even have to navigate it by hand if you hhave the Kinect. Mine works great I hardly ever have to even use my remote now.

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I'm finally getting an X1 because of Sunset Overdrive. That's my kinda game. I was going to pick one up for Dead Rising 3 but then found it it was dropping on PC so didn't need to. It just needs that one major exclusive like SO for me to drop my money on it. Hopefully it will continue to be worth the money down the line as more and more games drop on it.

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@gogin1 Just wait until you set it up and start enjoying it. You'll love it.

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What's the service?

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@saltlife225 Have no idea really. It works, thats all that matters (not that i really use much).

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Of course you have no idea. Because it doesn't exist. You just got called out. Streaming any channel to mobile device. You may have something like on-demand on your mobile device, but that's not the same thing.

Move along.

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@saltlife225 actually it streams just like a sling box. it uses your router I work for the cable company and we have app an that does the exact same thing.

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@oflow The cable company technology is based on agreements with the networks it can obtain rights to. Which is not every channel. That's why the Xbox thing is so attractive.

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@saltlife225 HD Homerun (4 tuners), and several competing products. I have one and never user it (originally thought it was going to be the greatest thing ever made). Its still cool that Xbox give you one though. Saves you like $90. There may also be a problem if your roommate (wife) is watching tv, and you want to go poop but watch the game; you cant watch a different channel at the same time because it uses the one tuner in the cable box. That's a guess though.

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@saltlife225 "on-demand on your mobile device" Yeah, that might be it. I'm not much into TV apps, i played some with them when i got the damn thing then the novelity wore off and i havent touched it since.

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Streaming any channel to any mobile device?

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@saltlife225 Yes... Amazing isent it? We live in the future.

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@saltlife225 The fanboy is strong with this one.

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@Pupchu @saltlife225 So he's a fanboy because he's saying the exact same thing as eis3nheim, yet the latter isn't a fanboy? Hmmm. That's some fanboy logic for you right there...

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Buy based on what is on the shelf not based on what is promised in a press conference. If you bought a XB1 based on last years press conferences, you'd be pretty sad that the entertainment box you were promised is turning into a gaming only box.

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@jimthev turning into a gaming only box? Most of the updates have nothing to do with GAMES...its all entertainment crap. If it actually was turning into a gaming only box, the thing may actually start selling well because there are just enough idiots out there that would be fooled into thinking that the system would suddenly becoming a decent gaming machine.

ESRAM...for gaming?!? lol...

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@jimthev Yes b/c x1 lost tv and entertainment stuff... wait no it didn't.

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@amorrell14 Apparently you missed the announcement where they closed Xbox Entertainment Studios resulting in the lose of tv content and entertainment (Blake's 7 would have been an instabuy for me). So now that your statement is proven false, will you reverse your opinion about the change in focus of MS with respect to XB1?

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@jimthev @amorrell14 Well, it's just exclusive TV shows. Honestly, who cares. I love Halo, but I have absolutely no interest in Halo TV.

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@jimthev Well, they're at least monthly updating to keep the features rolling in. Love the fact that I'll be able to stream live TV to the smartglass app this winter.

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@saltlife225 @jimthev Love the fact that i allready have this feature on my SmartTV to begin with.

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@jimthev "Buy based on what is on the shelf" But, there really is nothing interresting on the shelves -- as of yet.

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@Pupchu @jimthev "But, there really is nothing interresting on the shelves -- as of yet."


Sounds like a great reason not to buy then.

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So far I've seen nothing that justifies purchasing a "next-gen" system (PS4 or Xone). The waiting game is gold, folks.

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@Pupchu Spend the money.

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@saltlife225 Maybe spend on a new game PC rig. But so far, none of these two overrated systems aint worth my time or money.

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