The Fighting Game Community On Reputation & Mainstream Relevance

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Its cause alot of older people that didn't grow up around games don't understand them and they connect dots that have the slightest relevance. Like any time theres a shooting now, 50% of the time the newspapers will say "He played Call of Duty." It seems to be the same thing here. History has shown that some people are just more violent than others..... and now some of them happen to play video games.

As far as I knew I thought the fighting game community had a lot of great and friendly people. So what if that guy hit his girlfriend? Does the fact he played fighting games have anything to do with it? I think if he's willing to inflict battery on his loved ones then regardless of whether he plays fighting games or not he would have done it anyway. Hell, I've played fighting games since I was 6 years old and I've never once injured anyone or even considered it, much like I'm sure many others haven't!

Fighting are are much more technical then DotA games.

More combos, skills, countering and you have to study frame animation.

PC is missing fighting games, yeah.

Glad MK came to PC, shame it took 2 years.

Hope to see more, but I think loyalty to Sony might cause a few series to never come over. So sad.

FGs are great. The FGC? Sure, I guess it's ok too. Problem is investing in it is a pipe dream. Wake up people, too many of you are wasting your lives. Go get a real job, and play for fun. You'll remember these words when you wake up one day and realize FGs aren't paying the mortgage

i think the problem with fighting games is that they are not that exciting to watch

**** that shit news about the fighting game player hit his GF. what the **** is this? scientists hit their wives, doctors hit, and others also do stupid things, why is it surprising when a fighting game player hit his GF? bunch of dudes ruin their lives for online games every year, the problem is this.

Wow, Mark Judo is clearly not seeing straight. The FGC has embraced racists and sexists like few others. Remember Aris last year? He humiliated the FGC in a pre-release event for Street Figther x Tekken and drove a player out of a tournament, and a few months later, he was making the non-Capcom streams unwatchable at fucking EVO. Sorry, but when you can't bar the cancerous elements from the biggest event in your circuit, you have a problem. MLG would never put some XBL bastard in a hosting position at an MLG event for Call of Duty or Halo.

i like how my sis plays fighers she just smacks all buttons randomly =P

for me bigest problem with fighting games is that there arent many of them on pc most of the time i play the ones made with mugen D:

god im loving injustice right now

@chipwithdip i think there was 1 kof online wasnt that free .. im not sure tho =p

They only showed one fighting game during the video. I haz a sad.

I love the fighting game community. I am awful at fighting games; I bought an arcade stick for $100 though just because I love the games so much. I never attended a tournament because there are none in my area (and because I'd get bodied) but I watch almost all the major tournaments. It is one of the most light-hearted, funny, friendly and hypest communities there is. I think the way it is now is almost perfect; sure it would be great to expand, but then all those positive things I just said might disappear. It should stay the way it is and let the thousands who truly love these games be the ones who define it.

Fighting games are something many I ask say are "intimidating". I don't see it, like many game genres they're as deep as you want to make them. You get as good as the time you invest and learn its mechanics.

Certainly nothing wrong with not being a genius combo linking machine, may I say... Why should that only reason turn you away, and get you wanting it going down a more casual root entirely?

Just because the average Joe can't be bothered learning advance tactics in the preparation stages of practice, shouldn't conclude with the genre holding hands, and dumb down. All so they feel on par with gamers who actually enjoy the complexity of fighters in a higher tournament level.

Reality is. If you're not a pro fighting gamer, or have the dedication to become one? Then accept the fact you're not! Move on. And you'll enjoy it much more.

However, if losing is really that big a deal for ones ego? Set up matches with people who play with your similar experience. & surprisingly you'll still have loads of fun. Fighters are multiplayer focused and can be enjoyed on any level of depth.

The idea of damaging such a hardcore genre to please the masses should never come to be in my opinion.

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The FGC doees not need to become like LoL or whatever else eSports has to offer. The fans are there, the tournaments are great, great players emerge every other week. As long as game makers put out great fighting games, there is nothing to fear.

We don't need any perception. We are here and not going anywhere.

They cannot touch complexity its integral to what a fighting game is, a gradient of skill levels, and aptitude... like an onion with varying layers, its always a joy for me to up my game, to grow as a player. I definitely don't want this genre to be dumbed down, if anything dumbing down games has ruined them, broader appeal is always in conflict with depth. People want to be pros' right out of the box, its still one of the last genres where effort and strategic thinking is required and no surprise, people don't want to learn. I think eventually developers will either dumb down their products or create two different ones.... the MVC3 to your SSF4AE.

As long as human beings are involved in any sport, you will always find, rude, un-sportsmanship like behavior, I don't think the fighting genre is unique in that respect. It is a bit of a sausage fest but so was gaming in general for a long while, things will change, will be it be for the better or worse, is a point of perspective... dumbing a genre down so you can sell more copies is better for the developer... is it better for the genre... I personally don't think so, but I know people who do think its a good thing.

as an example gamers who are old enough to have played Baldur's gate wonder why there are no great rpg's like it anymore. You can look at mass effect 1 to mass effect 3, and notice how things have been homogenized and the whole game eventually turned into a FPS-like game with FPS-like duck and cover mechanics.

Is it better?, well depends on who you ask...

Wait, what are we hating on today??

They need to simplify the control schemes and start growing the PC Gaming side.

I agree with much of what these guys are saying. In particular, on Mark Ross' point about fighting games needing to become more accessible and free to play. Tekken Revolution is the only good example so far, but it's still nowhere near where the genre needs to be. The F2P DOA5 coming soon is another small step.

I want to see Tekken, DOA, Street Fighter and MK, reach the same heights as LoL and SCII. But to get there, they need free-to-play models, and they need to lower the bar for entry. Street Fighter needs to simplify their L/M/H control schemes (I personally know a lot of SF players who will hate me for saying that), and Tekken needs to tone down the bounds. If the game has a lower entry level, it becomes more inclusive, while still providing a learning curve with a very high top level.

Free-to-play is an equally, if not more important step. Tekken Revolution's model is decent, but hindered by the lack of a proper training/practice mode, and a short roster. The unlockable characters requiring absurd amounts of GP is also extremely frustrating. I'd be happier if they provided more characters at $2 to $4 each, but so far you cannot buy additional characters for Tekken Revolution with real money.

Namco Bandai could also do a lot more to encourage competition and drive the game forward. Sanctioned tournaments over PSN would be a good idea; extending Revolution to other platforms would be even better.

Expanding the World Tekken Federation to support Revolution would also be nice. And if Sony would stop requiring me to deposit minimum AU$10 when I want to purchase one thing at $2.95, that would also be a vast improvement.

Player behavior is and has never been exclusively a problem for the fighting game genre, nor is it just an esports problem. Most professional sports employ tough regulations on player behavior, and the media plays a big part too. If you are a professional footballer and you get an assault charge, it could end your career or at the very least cost you a lot of fans and money. (depending on which country you are in, I suppose).

Verbally abusing a player, a referee, or a crowd member at an NRL game, for example, is likely to result in a suspension, a fine, and a lot of negative media exposure. Even off-the-field behavior is taken into account. The NRL has strict rules about how their players act wherever they are, because when players are getting themselves in to trouble and creating negative attention, it looks for bad for them, for their team, for their fans, AND the sport. There's a lot that esports organizers can learn from that.

I'd also like to see some proper kind of independent, industry-funded, international organization (think something along the lines of the IOC, or FIFA) that is inclusive of all popular games, to set regulations on player behavior and ethics, as well as safety standards for events, and to represent esports globally. Not to actually manage events or run leagues, but to create standards and ethics for organizers to follow.

The only other complaint I have is the player names. I'd rather see more players use their own. A lot of the top LoL and SCII players are known by nicknames, which are, more often than not, simply embarrassing.

TL:DR, Blah, Tekken Revolution is pretty sweet, blah blah, esports ethics and player behavior needs regulation.

It's all in the people that make it to the top. Many of the westerners are the ones that are doing the trash talking. but as more humble players make it tot he top and don't encourage that stuff. The community will change as a whole. But as for being accepting as others? They'll respect anyone that's got the skills.

Reputation means 0 Too the FGC. They sell on pure skill alone, and no amount of PC BS could ever silence that.

I didn't know the FGC had any more or less of a bad reputation in comparison to all the other competitive gaming scenes out there. In general, tempers flair in ALL online games.

How do you play LoL? 123412341234123412341234, bitch at your teammates for being useless and not doing what you want, then some more1234123412341234. Never mind the fact that LoL is Pay2Win and you never have to look at the ppl your playing against. Oh, and Mike Ross is not a professional gamer.