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Worst Panel Ever (Comic book guy voice).. haha not really but it was a lil F-ed up. Definitely need to rethink how the talks should go/debate the game. Really I just think no one really wanted to be the "bad guy" and go hard into why "your favorite game sucks". More like a "I don't think that game you like is really that good" panel. I think Brian did the best job conveying why he thought Arkham Knight sucked cause he said both why he didn't like it and why it doesn't work as a game. I'd still like to see round 2 of this debate but with a lil more sting in the arguments. Get Mad, Get Angry, Piss some people off.

"..Cause that's what makes the world go round" :D <3 <3 <3

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Pax coverage hasn't really been great on any gaming website I don't know why I waste my time with game centred web sites seems like the same click.

I should do my own thing anyone want to help hit me up @8bitasylum on twitter

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C Moriarty already did that with 'serious reviews' to Metro games and Wolfenstein New Order. Seriously, that guy thinks CoD gameplay aspects are a standard for new FPS games. They're not. But I like his Tales of reviews :P

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This is the best Gamespot video of all time. Whose ever idea this was, deserves a raise.

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Very, very Informative and entertaining. Much appreciation and kudos to all that made this show possible.

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The fanboy tears in this thread may be the best part. It's a roast guys. Unbunch your panties.

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This was really awesome! It was fun to see these video game reviewers throw objectivity and professionalism to the wind and just talk about what they didn't like about these classics.

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OMG GS Please do this at every E3, GDC, PAX, and etc. People ripping up games like this in a good way is really entertaining and informative.

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GS give us more of this type of honest, off the cuff, appraisal of games for better or worse... just diversify the panel, opinion wise i mean

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Be silent if you liked it! lol

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I would have torn Uncharted 3 to shreds. And yes, this show definitely needs to be a semi-regular feature, maybe 3-4 times a year so they don't get gratuitous.

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@youre_a_sheep: yeah i agree... this is refreshing... from all the pandering and butt kissing going on "officially"

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LAME!!!!

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... no bro, it reeaaally sucks, though ... :p

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Edited By scblais

So, Colin's "debate" strategy is about his own personal preferences over what's "fun".

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@scblais: pretty much any other reviewer. Always check users reviews, they're more authentic.

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" I married her " , I was laughing all the showed, I just died xD

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greatest segment ever. do this again

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Loved the show. So funny !!!!!

Please make it a regular show.

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Hah! Master -debaters. I wonder Danny meant that

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Edited By isturbo1984

Everyone take note... the asshole did not play the previous MGS games, and then was completely lost in the story in MGS4 and it did not make sense for him. The main gripe being that he did not get the story, or understand the characters, or pick up on the references. So many people just like this! Play the fucking games, you idiots!

Now excuse me. I'm going to go watch Serenity and tell you how it doesn't make any sense by itself.

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@isturbo1984: Lame story aside, Metal Gear Solid 4 still sucks gameplay wise. As does Assassins Creed.

Metal Gear Solid 3 was pretty decent. I'm hoping Metal Gear Solid 5 will also be good.

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@Zombie8814: i never felt the games sucked gameplay-wise. i was pleased with MGS3 gameplay as well... but MGS4's was much expanded and improved.

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Edited By Databit

Very fun video :D, i just want to say that criticizing MGS4 for not empathizing with the characters or for not understanding the story while not playing the rest of the series its just like saying that Breaking Bad ending sucked because you just watched the last episode and didn't connect with Walter White or that the last Game of Thrones book sucked because that was your first one and didn't knew the characters...

Edit: Oh, and the "you don't have to do complicated stuff do beat the game" its true, you don't have to... but you do it because its fun, in the same way you can just drive to the story mission in GTA, use a hand gun and beat the game but you don't... because its fun to mess around.

Well that would be what id say if i were there xP. Anyway this was really fun, like mentioned before i also would love to see this become regular thing.

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this was hilarious, i agree with the last comment that this should be a semi-regular show... it would get out a lot of the aggression all us trolls/critics have

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Edited By freakyzzz

Very funny show with a lot of good arguments, they should do this every month as a regular show, very good!
More organization might be good as the only bad thing was that the people who were defending had really really bad points or arguments to defend their games, like they didn't knew how to point out the flaws in the other argument.

Besides that, please, do it as a regular show!

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Awesome video! Interesting points brought up, I personally loved B:AK and have deep respect for FF VII and MGS, but it's nice to see more logical arguments on both ends to see why people genuinely don't resonate with a game like others. AC 2 (along with the whole franchise) is absolute garbage though, so I was laughing the whole time!

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Edited By khaos107

Funny video. Spot on about Assassins Creed worst gameplay ever. To bad too because the world and story are awesome, just unplayable to me. I love Metal Gear but they're right about the story being to convoluted.

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Assassin's Creed 2 was ... enjoyable at the time?

Otherwise, I agree with all the other arguments. MGS4, FF7 and Arkham Knight were not good games.

Now, if only they had said something about Dragon Age: Inquisition, Civ5, Beyond: Two Souls or Bioshock Infinite are all flaming turds.

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YES!

Metal Gear Solid is absolutely awful. Its a mirage many get suckered into claiming they love. The story is so repulsive and flat out dumb. The gameplay never fascinated me either. Chris said exactly right - you have to create your own elaborate schemes in a level in order to have fun.

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Edited By hecatonchires

It was chaotic. Arguments and counter-arguments sucked.

I'd prefer a better organized debate featuring guests willing to put more effort debating.

It's a nice subject however. I'd like to see critics arguing against games they hated (and arguing agains each other) more often.

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There's a fuckton of popular 9.5 shitty games.

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Haha, This was awesome.

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That was weird. I'm pretty much in agreement on the combat in assasins creed being boring, slow, a bit too easy and not very interesting. I would not use any of those words about the combat in the batman games though. If the argument is that its bad because you wait for enemies to do stuff then counter it you could say the same about dark souls as well and he seemed to like that one

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I still love MGS even for its convoluted plot and goofy writing. They're dead on about Assgreed, though.

Oh, and the joke panel has too many manicured, pampered pajama boys on it. Could you find at least one guy with physical signs of having a job? At least one wrinkle? Thanks.

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@40mdf0: I'm laughing at how stupid your comment was, just wanted you to know.

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@40mdf0: boom. My favorite reply and I didn't even watch it. Thought you knew: everyone wants to be, and likes to see, metro androgynous characters and video game journalists. Thanks, Seacrest. Pampered pajama boys. Man, I'm gonna use that from here on.

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What Chris said is basically my exact reason for not liking Metal Gear Solid. I lost it totally after Sons of Liberty.

I replayed them this year on PS3 and it made me question why I ever thought the series was good. I guess I just didn't take in the dumb story when I was younger.

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I really thought Colin was going to do Final Fantasy 10

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Thanks for posting/hosting this. I am a fan of Danny, Colin and "We Have Concerns" from Anthony. Very glad to hear from Chris and Brian and learn more about them :)

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I like how he throws game scores around like they matter and stuff like "most cosplayed"

The other people can't call bs and call that out for what it is, appeal to authority and argumentum ad populum because they will make the reviews less worthwhile and they are in that industry but that's what those are.

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@putaspongeon: Thank you! I can't get over how people act like MetaCritic is a gaming bible and its scores are divine truth.

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Final Fantasy 7 may not be the best but it definitely is in top 5 best FF games. He should of picked 10,8 or 13. Now those games are bad.

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@infinite211: Well, the goal wasn't to pick the worst game, but a game that people really like.

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@RS13: well he should of picked 10. That really is a game people like but actually isn't that good. 10 was the beginning of the end for FF.

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