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After Raising $114,000 on Kickstarter, Dev Goes Silent

Alex Fundora not responding to emails; Artist says he has not been paid and is moving onto another project.

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The Stomping Land, a planned multiplayer dinosaur-survival game that raised $114,000 on Kickstarter, is now in a critical state with its art lead quitting and its creator not responding to emails.

In June 2013, The Stomping Land Kickstarter project managed to raise more than $114,000 from 4,400 backers, having initially only asked for $20,000.

A year later, a first build of the project was published on Steam Early Access, and at the time its lead developer--Alex Fundora--assured that "even though the game is available, development is still in full force."

However, this would mark the final update on the game's Kickstarter page. Now, the game's lead artist has quit the project and says he hasn't been able to establish contact with Fundora in weeks.

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In-game model designer, Vlad Konstantino, wrote on The Stomping Land forums: "More than a month has passed since the day when I received the last reply from Fundora. I've sent him five messages and haven't got any single reply."

Konstantino also claimed that Fundora owes him money, and that "if this silence continues I will stop my participation in TSL and start taking the necessary measures to cover my expenses."

The message, first brought to light by PC Gamer, adds that Konstantino is now working on a different project entirely.

One backer, who said they had invested $90 in The Stomping Land, has informed Kickstarter of the issue, but the crowd-funding site could only offer an apology in return.

It is not clear if Kickstarter can or will take any further action.

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Crowd funding is essentially "I am willing to invest my money into your idea, I understand it may not be a success or even see the light of day." Some will succeed, most will fail that is the risk you take.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> No, that's investing where you get equity. Crowdfunding is "here's my money, I'm not very smart".

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> then why am I happy playing the majority of games I have backed on kickstarter ?

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> If you are lucky enough to have helped fund a game that goes to market and is decent enough then I'd say you haven't done badly.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I'd say you were pretty stupid to give you money away.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I spend hundreds a week on going out when I am not at work thus money to me is there to burn. If a game turns out to be good then at least I haven't just p*ssed it against the wall.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Bingo!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Why do people keep calling it and investment? It's ridiculous, it's not an investment.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> ...OK the closest thing would be 'funding' then, bit like athletes get. Zero return and zero results most of the time.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> And the risk far outweighs the reward, which is why I think Kickstarter is not worth it.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Of the projects I've backed, 9/10 have released and been completely worth it.


The risk only outweights the reward if you're dumb and unable to evaluate projects properly.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> See I would put money into some but I wouldn't be fussed to see it not come to fruition.

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I dont think it's exactly shady, as in they started out with the attempt to con people. I think that real life happens and other oppurtunities present themselves. Remember that this is the world of 12 month resume. You work a job for a few months and then move on to the next.

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Guys i need money for my game "HoboCop" lets make it happen people!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Change the b with an m and profit.

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I knew someone would say that sooner or later lol

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The best thing about Kickstarter is also, the worst thing about it. Anyone can use it, opening the door wide-open for con-artists.

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Kickstarter's days are numbered. We will look back on it and think "It had so much potential." But the road to h*ll is paved with good intentions. Do I want Kickstarter to end, no.
Because good things have come from it and will continue to do so, but like all things in life you have to take the good with the bad... It's just often there is more bad than good.



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<< LINK REMOVED >> I dont think kickstarter will end any time soon.. It might have to change a bit to help protect against a few badd eggs out there but I think it will be around in some form or another for a long time.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Yes, I think it should end. People should not be fooled into thinking they're investing in something.

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Shady crap like this is going to kill kickstarter.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I think common sense will eventually kill it.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Probably just hipsters with chequered shirts and cr@ppy beards

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Because there's so much of that going around these days... XD

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The only problem I see is they've opened up reward based investing to people who don't understand investing. If you can't stomach a zero ROI, don't risk the money!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> There's a big difference between "invest in my idea" and "watch me steal these fools monies 'cause they're stupid kids obsessed with dinosaur games".

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Yes, "invest is my idea" includes, "here's your shares in my company and here's the books so you can see if I'm managing it well."

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I wouldnt share anything with a bunch of anonymous psychopaths on the internet, personally.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Stealing would involve someone tapping into your bank account and taking monies without your knowledge. Voluntarily giving money and getting zero ROI is not stealing, it's called a loss.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> And when the parties in question had no intentions on delivering a profitable product it's called "fraud".


Get a clue.

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Kickstarter, is where devs go to if they want to steal people's money without legal consequences.


At least AAA publishers and self-published Indies Developers make sure the development of their titles is on-going, and they assume full responsibility and losses if their project fails.

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With Kickstarter, the developer has to hold themselves accountable. Do what they're supposed to do when they're supposed to do it. When it works, it's great. When the system fails like this, people get suckered out of tens of thousands of dollars and it's unacceptable. Even if Mr. Fundora wants to go work for another developer, he has this hanging over his head.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> If AAA publishers pays a dev team to make a game, and it does bad they cancel it and loses all the money. Its the same with kickstarter but the consumers are the publishers. No different. They don't get sued for not delivering, they just get fired and not payed for the whole product.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> You're confusing one project with a company. The owners of the company that invested it also take the loss but they retain ownership of the company. If it does goes under, remaining assets are distributed.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> In publishers case, the rest of the money goes back to them. In Kickstarter, you just get suckered. You don't have a claim on their work either to make sure another studio continues where that dev failed.

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I think steam early access has to take some of the blame for this sort of thing aswell. I use to be a big advocate for it but how many games have actually been completed.

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Aliens.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I want to believe.

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all your monies are belong to us

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If you want to make lots of money get some game designers to but an awful demo together start a Kickstarter then make lots of empty promises until you get enough money abandon the project and get the hell outta there


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<< LINK REMOVED >> Sounds like a good plan.

Even better, don't bother with making an entire demo, instead, take gameplay footage from a game made in the 80s and pretend it's new: Not like the backers will know. Pixel graphics are so in right now.

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Lets do it!

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I know Chris Roberts just bought his own private jet and an island in the Bahamas

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Time to start stomping

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Time to form an Angry Mob

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The bogus death threats will force him to complete the project he abandoned!!

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Man pc gaming is going downhill, only games I play are arma, red orchestra, shit I can't even remember last time I booted it up. Yea yea mods are are cool and butt I'll wait so I don't need 2k comp

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Its a shame really.. the game looked like it could have really been something.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Looks like utter trash to me, but to each his own.

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I'd form a hunting party and get my money back from him directly with force.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Can I be the trapper? That's my favorite class.
Edit: Wait. What's evolve?

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