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AMD Phenom 9900 Processor Hands-On

We take the AMD Phenom 9900 out for a spin. Find out about AMD's Spider platform and how the Phenom performs.

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AMD has recently released the Spider platform, the first joint product launch resulting from the company's merger with graphics manufacturer ATI. The Spider platform consists of three new product lines: the ATI Radeon HD 3800-series GPU, the AMD Phenom CPU, and the AMD 7-series motherboard chipset. This is the first time AMD has been able to offer customers a complete processor, graphics, and motherboard system platform with AMD chips handling all three major functions. They also represent AMD's most advanced technology to date.

The ATI Radeon HD 3800 graphics chips offer more performance and more power efficiency than the Radeon HD 2900 series. The AMD 790 chipset line brings HyperTransport 3.0, PCI Express 2.0, and CrossFireX quad-GPU support to motherboard platforms. GPU updates and new chipsets are always welcome, but the AMD Phenom processor is the most anticipated part of the platform.

AMD earned a lot of credibility in the PC gaming community during the past four years because it was finally able to come up with a CPU design that could take the performance lead away from rival Intel. AMD's Athlon 64 line outperformed the Pentium 4, Intel's best offering at the time. Intel was able to recover the performance lead with its new Core 2 processor line, but AMD had established itself as a viable option among gamers and many looked forward to AMD's new processor, the AMD Phenom.

The AMD Phenom processor features what AMD calls a "true quad-core" design, which has all four processing cores on a single piece of silicon rather than two dual-core processing units side-by-side as Intel does to create its quad-core processors. Having all four processors on a single die allows all the cores on the Phenom chip to share a single L3 cache. Each core still has dedicated L1 and L2 cache, but the shared L3 cache helps improve multicore performance by reducing the amount of time it takes each core to access shared data.

The Phenom features a number of power-saving features designed to increase efficiency. The system can independently adjust the frequency of each core and dynamically disable unused parts of the CPU to reduce power consumption. The Phenom also has several thermal sensors that will automatically reduce the processor speed if heat becomes a problem, in case of CPU fan failure, for example.

The Athlon 64 has an integrated memory controller that helps reduce system memory access time, and AMD has continued supporting that feature in the Phenom by incorporating a DDR2 memory controller on the CPU die. The new integrated memory controller can handle DDR2 memory speeds, ranging from DDR2-400 up to DDR2-1066. AMD has also added HyperTransport 3.0 I/O data bus support, which greatly increases the amount of bandwidth available for data communications, provided that the processor is installed on an HT 3.0 capable motherboard. However, that does not mean that the Phenom will require a motherboard upgrade.

The Phenom is a Socket AM2+ chip, but it will work on current Socket AM2 motherboards. The backward compatibility support will allow current Socket AM2 Athlon 64 owners to upgrade to a Phenom processor without having to buy a new motherboard, but they might have to update the motherboard BIOS. Backward compatibility aside, AMD would still like customers to pick up an AMD 7-series motherboard to go along with every Phenom CPU.

The AMD 7-series chipsets all include Socket AM2+, HyperTransport 3.0, and PCI Express 2.0 support. The AMD 7-series includes three different chipsets: the AMD 790FX at the very high end, the AMD 790X at the merely high end, and the AMD 770 at the mainstream. The main difference between the chipsets is primarily the number of video cards each one supports. AMD 790FX motherboards will be able to support up to four video cards in CrossFireX configuration. AMD 790X boards will handle up to two cards, and the AMD 770 will be the chipset for single-card systems.

You can use the AMD OverDrive utility to overclock your CPU and memory

AMD will supply motherboard manufacturers with an AMD OverDrive utility that will let users tweak settings, such as CPU speeds, memory timings, and voltages. Experienced users will be able to take advantage of the granular options, but the application will also include an automated "Auto Clock" overclocking feature for beginners.

System Setup: Intel Core 2 Q6700, Intel Core 2 Duo E6700, Intel 975XBX2, AMD Phenom 9900, AMD Phenom 9600, ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe, 2GB Corsair XMS Memory (1GBx2), 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows XP Professional SP2. Graphics Card: GeForce 8800 GTX, beta Nvidia ForceWare 169.09.
[Update: We listed the Intel Core 2 Q6700 and the Intel Core 2 E6700 incorrectly as the Q6600 and E6600, respectively, in the system setup. We have corrected the mistake and apologize for the error.]

We tested the 2.6GHz quad-core AMD Phenom 9900 against the 2.66GHz quad-core Intel Core 2 Q6700 to see how the two processors compared on a clock-for-clock basis.

The Intel Core 2 Q6700 turned in the better numbers in all of our tests. The Intel chip may have had an extra 60MHz to work with, but that's not nearly enough clock speed to account for the size of the performance gap. We also included the Intel Core 2 E6700 to see if we could spot any performance differences between dual-core and quad-core. The extra cores seemed to help most in the 3DMark06 CPU benchmark, the Valve Particle test, and the Crysis physics test.

The current Phenom chip design has a bug, or erratum as AMD prefers to call it, that may cause the system to hang in rare instances, such as while running in virtualization mode with high utilization across all four cores. All Phenom processors, including the Phenom 9700 and 9900 shipping in mid-to-late Q1 2008, will have revised cores with an erratum fix in place. Motherboard manufacturers will soon release new BIOS updates to resolve the issue in current Phenom processors, but the fix will result in some performance degradation.

AMD stressed to GameSpot that the problem is extremely rare. So rare, in fact, that users will be able to use the AMD OverDrive utility to disable the errata fix to get full performance out of the processor. The Asus motherboard we tested did not have a BIOS fix, but we did not notice any system instability when we benchmarked our Phenom engineering sample using the motherboard's shipping BIOS. Please keep in mind that our test results show the Phenom running at full power without any errata fix limitations.

Judging by the benchmark results, it looks like AMD will need to increase clock speeds or lower the price of the Phenom to stay competitive with Intel, and it looks like AMD is doing a little of both. AMD has told GameSpot that the Phenom 9900 will sell for "below $350" when the chip arrives next spring. In comparison, the Intel Core 2 Q6700 currently retails for just under $550, but we wouldn't be surprised if Intel cuts the price to give the Phenom 9900 a warm welcome. AMD will also ship a 2.4GHz Phenom 9700 at around the same time for "below $300." Consumers can currently find the 2.2GHz Phenom 9500 and 2.3GHz Phenom 9600 in retail for about $250 and $275, respectively.

The AMD Phenom certainly isn't the Lebron James, Intel-killer many had hoped for, but it also isn't a Kwame Brown-like disappointment. The numbers show us that the CPU is competitive. If AMD can increase the clock speeds and keep the price affordable, the Phenom could very well develop into a star.

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I recently converted from amd to intel with a Q6600 g0 stepping processor, i was a bit worried that these new amd processors would make me regret that decision but thankfully it looks like i still have the best value proceesor money can buy right now. Just for the record th Q6600 runs @ 2.4Ghz stock, but overclocks to 3Ghz without any changes to voltages and now mine is running @ 3.4Ghz by tweaking ram and vcore voltage, Completely stable and all on STOCK AIRCOOLING!! and i still feel there is more power to be ssqueezed out if needed. So for now stick with intel (something i never thought id say a couple of years ago)

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ok kids, time for bed.

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AMD has always been my choice it delivers performance for value, in fact i've never owned an intel CPU in my entire life but of course i have used it as much as AMD but still except for the fact that AMD does not have anything to compete head-to-head with intel Core 2 Duo which could be the reason for me to try intel for the very first time; i mite just wait few more months to see how Phenom is doing ... who knws i mite still go ahead with AMD .... :D

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hmm... pretty interesting...

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Edited By Ultra-Fatality

Point is, AMD just owned Intel, i have a core 2 CPU but i must admit the Phenom 9900 owns, competitive performance for 200$ less (not as good performance but the difference is no way near worth 200$) Now that is ownage.

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JackfnBurton, Im almost sure that AMD didnt nees to change the socket type for the ppl who would prefer to use their current mainboard with a new gen processor but old DDRs and mainboards. When i got my mainboard and processor AMD did not let anyone know that their socket 939 wont see a new processor generation. It was like 1 month or less that they made everyone know AM2 is coming with DDR. Ok lets say that everything is the way u claim, why cant I find any 939 x2 processors to buy for my current board. We all know that as ram clocks increase the latencies do increase as well. Meaning new ram architectures like ddr wont make much difference in a game's frame rate. I have a socket 939 3200 and i cant find a x2 processor for it to upgrade (unless it's used), Im located in Europe but i guess its a bit easier for a North American to find one for himself. If they built a new architecture for everything, at least they had to support us by making available more 939 x2s. I wanted to buy a 2900 ati or 8800 nvidia for my 939 mainboard (replacing 7800 gtx) but i wont get it since im on single core thx to ATI

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Edited By powner6221994

intel's still owning

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Edited By razu_gamer

No intel do not own. It is more expensive. Just like you can't say 8800ultra owns 2600 because you have to judge it with price aswell.

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Intel does run better than amd but for the price id rather save a few $100 by going with AMD im currently running a Athlon 3500+ i always skip a generation of cpu so im glad i didnt get a x2 6000+ so now i can get the Phenom and with a 9800gtx when they come out and ill have the top crysis system although im kinda over crysis ive already finshed it

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Edited By RaYden_333

Intel 4 EVER Q Own4G3 And lets not forget that Phenom should be ranked with QX6850 with is far superior to Q6700

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Im using a Q6600 at the moment. But I've always had an AMD... I LOVE AMD and I will buy AMD any time. For a company that doesn't have the same budget as INTEL they do DAMN GOOD. GO AMD!!

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lol, Intel pwns again....BLNT AMD!

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so the point is, intel still rules :D

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I hate WOW hackers sai fut in bot

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To be honest i used AMD because my dad always liked it i like it too a bit cheaper but not that good as intel but still in Crysis i dont see nooo poblems runs smooth its AMD x2 Athlon 5000+ no eroers or crashes on XP but a qquad core intel wouldn make me feel sad of selling this AMD By the way AMD and ATi arent going down the drain look at atis radeon 2900 xt with 1 gi ram better than GTX see in youtube on tiger tv AMD going well so far .....

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What about heat temperatures? id like to see which one runs cooler.

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agree

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woo go intel

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And in conclusion, Core 2 q6700 is better? Ouch.

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iam in agree with what wolfwatch said amd was good but now they going down the drain i just hope they come up fix those issues and lower the prices and bet the core2 somehow so we can have a war b\w and amd and intel which means more price cuts :)

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Edited By g3n3r41xan

To be honest I really dont care about top of the range. simply i dont have the money to buy the top CPUs so for mid range that perform well enough i dont care which i go for, when the time is right for me to upgrage i first look into my wallet and then look at what processor suits me. if the processor is not good enough for the work i need i just wait and get more money and then upgrade. but by these tests AMD is still behind but i still want them to catch up so one time intel is up and another time AMD, sort of keeps everyone happy.

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Phenom may not be better than Intel's CPU, but it is not much worse. Compared to A64 which is much worse. If you must have AMD Phenom isn't a bad choice. Intel is still the best though.

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I used to be a AMD fan way back when they first started making the K-7 chip. Back then AMD was a better alternative to Intel. Especially since the prices were much cheaper then Intel by 100%. But AMD over the last 5 years has stumbled and fallen behind the lead they had on Intel performance. They now have squandered it and by lying to the public posting phooey cpu test's with mistakes on the Intel cpu numbers. Im sorry it wasn’t the quad core Intel we posted in our brochure. It was actually a 2 core duo that we still couldn’t beat with our Quad core killer. Intel rules the speed and price market for now hands down. I have 4 AMD 4800+ machines at work and there dogs compared to my E6600 Intel by large numbers in Everest and 3d mark 06. Gears of war i installed on the AMD machine it was almost unplayable. The AMD machine even had a ATI 1900XT 512mb video card and 2gb of memory 400mghz. Same Video card and Intel e6600 was smooth and nice to play. Both machines running Windows XP pro one had western digital SATA drive and mine a Seagate SATA drive. Ill grant you that the AMD machine was 200.00 cheeper. But were gamers we don’t sacrifice 200 dollars to have a machine that wont play gears of war. Then if you want to do some over clocking the Intel rockets away in cpu and memory marks. I hope that AMD now with help from ATI chipset department can make some welcome changes. Once again they may come out on top if they produce cpu's like ATI makes GPU's. Unless the chip is more then 50 percent cheaper and performs the same as Intel they wont sell. Intel has some really awesome cpu's on the horizon so AMD already playing behind the 8 ball. they should scrap the phenom and jump right to producing a 8 core or 16 core chip and release it before Intel does. That's what they did in the past and when they rulled the speed game. If ATI can stick 320 stream processors in the GPU they have to be able to double the current core count. There 1000 watt power supply’s now plenty of power to spare. Reminds me i have to dump my 2900XT 320 watt monster. The new chip now sucks only 200watt's that’s innovation..! Thanks, Bri

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AMD stands for Apples Monkeys and DICKs

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I'm just an AMD kind of guy. I've used Intel in the past until all my PC buddies told me that AMD was the way to go. I figured that I'd try it and never looked back. My PC is long overdue for an upgrade and this is looking pretty nice. Once better drivers come out, the Spider could really crawl.

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very nice, doable

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I 'd compare AMD and Intel like I compare a Saturn with a Mercedez Benz, You just don't need to think which one is best.

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I like the AMD overdrive =]

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rimnet00 : No, the 360 uses a processor called the Xenon which is based on the PowerPC architecture by Intel... very similar to processors found on the PC. The Cell is a completely different beast, and is only found *commercially* in PS3s. The PowerPC chip was made by IBM and the Xenon was also developed by them.

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AMD bought ATI and so far that hasn't seemed to be a good idea. in the future they might be able to make a cpu and gpu together which would be great for them. but so far they have yet to catch with Intel, price wise and quality wise, unless Intel doesn't drop the price. although Intel may beat them to the cpu and gpu if AMD gets a lead on it. Problem is if AMD dies, it's not good for Intel prices because w/o competition, and only one mainstream company, means the customer may not see the prices drop anymore. competition is good for the market and buyers, but not when one competitor keeps getting slammed. GL AMD

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I love the basketball reference. AMD Phenom is more like the Kevin Durante if anything. lol

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AMD just made the wrong choice by sticking with 90nm while intel slowly but surely shifted to 65nm thats why intel is ahead for now, while AMD tries to figure out these 65nm designs in al honesty i don't really care, i'm still living off my OCed 3700 sandy and i'm just fine at playing most of todays games. AMD already has 65nm chips, its just their latest Duel core 6400 is 90nm so they can clock it at faster speeds

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Edited By ajcali08

Wat about AMD + nvidia? Just because you got a Amd cpu doesnt mean you have to go ati. And screw your Octa-core....it's all about the 4x4..2 quad core processors on 1 mobo.

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This article would have been a lot different (and more meaningful) if it included the Q6600 for comparison. I'm really curious as to why James Yu left out the most significant player currently in this class of CPUs, both in terms of price and performance. Doesn't make sense at all.

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Would prefer to see the results of the cpu, mobo and gfx card together (if they were available to you, i know the gfx card is) and compare that against the rig you used. Was quite disappointed how you opened the article about the 1st "complete" package realesed to then only review 1 part of it

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@Darkchaostitan that is the stock warning that has come with processors for the past 15 years. Every chip manufacturer takes that position and it has been a known consequence for overclockers for just as long. Historically AMD processors have never completely achieved the robust overclocks that intel processors have been capable of. So a small majority of avid overclockers stay away from AMD products. As far as this new AMD release goes..... A little late to make any impact, and AMD is falling behind badly to NVIDIA and Intel. Unless I'm way off, the Intel Penryn release will overshadow anything AMD has lined up.

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[quote]darkchaostitan [/quote] You do understand, that little overclocking warning you posted, is pretty much standard for Intel,Nvidia,Ati,Cyrix,Matrox,etc etc!

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With that price its already a star in my opinion :D !!!

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darkchaostitan: Intel has had octa-core designs for a while now, just not commercial. Same with IBM, Toshiba, etc.

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The mac is coming out with the next octra-core by the way, apsalus

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I was looking around on AMDs site and found something that may be intresting, it's pretty obvious, but nevertheless. "***WARNING*** AMD and ATI processors are intended to be operated only within their associated specifications and factory settings. Operating your AMD or ATI processor outside of specification or in excess of factory settings, including but not limited to overclocking, may damage your processor and/or lead to other problems, including but not limited to, damage to your system components (including your motherboard and components thereon (e.g. memory)), system instabilities (e.g. data loss and corrupted images), shortened processor, system component and/or system life and in extreme cases, total system failure. AMD does not provide support or service for issues or damages related to use of an AMD or ATI processor outside of processor specifications or in excess of factory settings. You may also not receive support or service from your system manufacturer. DAMAGES CAUSED BY USE OF YOUR AMD OR ATI PROCESSOR OUTSIDE OF SPECIFICATION OR IN EXCESS OF FACTORY SETTINGS ARE NOT COVERED UNDER YOUR AMD PRODUCT WARRANTY AND MAY NOT BE COVERED BY YOUR SYSTEM MANUFACTURER’S WARRANTY. " For a processor like this of course any and everyone is going to want to over clock it. Thing is, you run it into the ground and you're screwed.

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you guys already made up your minds with out reading about it. this is only the first chip out many that are suppose to come out. fusion, plus also is coming out in 2009 and also a new socket for new chipsets. it is going to change up soon. They are also disapoint inthere results and know that there was a flaw. At least they don't hide from there mistakes. The manufacturing is good just made a flaw in the chip it's self that they will use a bios patch which makes it loose 20% of it's performance. I beleive after this mess is over with things will be looking up plus i was not waiting for this chip i was waiting for the next ones, they real big deal ones. i beleive they will make them for work station and mid range chips nothing high performance gaming machines. sell them low price to get them out the door for the other chips to come into practice.

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AMD just made the wrong choice by sticking with 90nm while intel slowly but surely shifted to 65nm thats why intel is ahead for now, while AMD tries to figure out these 65nm designs in al honesty i don't really care, i'm still living off my OCed 3700 sandy and i'm just fine at playing most of todays games.

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Longer bar bars indicate better performance? Smaller bars indicate better performance? ... Confusion!! :S

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By the way, what's next... Octa-Core Processors?

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Even though the AMD Phenom is slightly slower than the Core 2 Q6700, the AMD processor will force Intel to drive down the price of the Q6700. And even if Intel gets greedy and cocky and decides NOT to significantly lower the price on the Q6700, then I will just buy the AMD Phenom because it will have more "bang for the buck." Either way, we have AMD to thank. Without AMD, Intel would be raping us with extremely high prices (they would essentially be a monopoly). But with AMD, Intel is forced to be competitive - capitalism wins.

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Intel + nVidia = Win. Right now, who seriously cares about Quad-core. Dual-core is still pretty recent technically speaking and you really don't need anything more than a dual core unless you want to spend $4000 just to brag about it.

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amd and ati are going down the drain.

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Neither AMD or ATI does it better then Intel and Nvidia. The tied has turned.

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for all of you people high on something, phenom may be $200 cheaper than the q6700, but its only about $5 cheaper than the q6600. not only that but the q6600 outperforms phenom by pretty much the same margin as the q6700. thats one of the reasons gamespots tests and comments are very flawed, they decided to use the q6700 instead and just conviently left out the q6600. when compared to the q6600 phenoms price/performance ratio literally becomse a moot point as the q6600s have a far superior price/performance ratio, being that their $5 more expensive but outperform phenom by 10-25%.

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