Battlefield 3 producer says blocking used games can be beneficial - Report

They should focus on fighting piracy not the people that actually try to buy the used original games!

@mingolo LOL. I guess, you never going abroad to asia don't you (mostly india, bali, philippines or thailand.) don't know about others. Piracy on consoles is like "epidemic", it's rather difficult for people like them to build their own expensive PC! (some doesn't even know how to use PC.), let alone copying crack, or adjusting PC spec.. on Consoles you just need distributing & cracking the hardware, and voila! you can play all the games you want!! and btw, Console games is like $2 on the street, mostly single-player only.. I see a lot parents buying their kids M rated games! and if you buy 1 Consoles on the store/mall, you get like 40 AAA free games on PS3.. holysh!t I don't know how they do it, but I saw it myself, It could run like butter on most PS3/PS2/X360/Wii. without any crashing or error, guess you're veeryy wrong. LOL :roll:

The game companies should not blame used games for the decline in sales. If 100,000 people buy a game discover it sucks the sales will remain at 100,000. Over the lifetime of the PS4/Xbox#3. Blocking the sale of used games will not increase their sales of that game.

I'm Pretty Sure Used Games Isn't Killing Smaller Companys, in all honesty it might help a little bit, but what is really killing small companys is a game that blows and a consumer that is smart enough to not waist 60 dollars on it

So what happends when our consoles brake does that mean i need to replace my entire collection?

(part 2 of my first post) I do understand though where the industry is coming from i mean there's a ton of money flowing from their work that isn't going into their hands. Instead of attacking us though they should go after the stores that sale used games. I mean gamestop only has as much power as the gaming industry gives them and they give a lot. It would take cooperation between the major players but it could be done. For example, how big of a blow would it be for say gamestop to not carry BlackOps 2? Huge right i mean just that one game and GS will be on the floor begging for mercy. All they would have to do is demand a kick back fee for every used copy of their game that is sold. Im sure they would have no choice but to agree as long as its reasonable. There are plenty of other places that sale games so its not like you would be missing out on a major amount of sales from not being in GS. Another solution could be for these companies to start their own used game programs. Maybe you could sale back your games directly to the publisher and they could start selling used versions of their own games. That way they can get some of that used game money in a legit non screw us over way. I do know that the current course the industry is taking isnt helping.

They need to quit BS'ing and go at gamestop, that's who they have beef with right? They need to strong arm and get a % of used game sales for every title they publish instead of punishing the consumer. Could you imagine buying a used car and having to pay an extra thousand for a ignition pass? smfh. And i wonder how bad used games are REALLY hurting the industry? I guarantee whatever they recoup from gamestop for those pre-order deals and exclusive "content" offsets any used sales anyway. The real issue is greed IMO

My thing is though how can they say that used games are the problem like its a fact? The fact is that yeah many people buy used games and gamestop is making a killing that much is true but how can they say that they are struggling(Not EA of course) because of used sales? I really beg to differ. They see a used sale as someone who would have payed for the game brand new just isn't true in most cases in my exp. In fact its the exact opposite. That used sale usually means the person didn't feel that the game was worth it brand new and wouldn't have bought it otherwise. Most gamers i know rush and buy a game brand new if they feels its a good game and that its gonna be worth their hard earned money. If not then its very easy to say "meh ill wait for a price drop". Thats a choice that we as consumers should have and we shouldn't be punished for it. We are the only ones being punished too because it sure isn't gonna stop gamestop and it isn't gonna help crappy games sale any better. If anything people are just going to end up buying less and only going with sure thing blockbusters. They think its blockbuster or bust now just wait.

Fu***** corporate bastards only interested in making money not in delivering high-quality products. Instead of looking for methods to rip the people of there money you should really invest more in higher-quality content and without annoying DRM system that affect more the legit players than pirates. People should stop supporting this kind of behavior by not pre-ordering or buying low quality games and dlc's and always wait for a review and some real in-game videos before making purchase.

"The only thing I know is that people are not doing it to be evil and stupid; it's about trying to create some benefits for consumers." You better laugh when you say that.

If I like a game I support it by buying new.

Personally, blocking used game sales would make me wait for all new games to drop to about the price of $20 or less (depending on the quality of the game). See, to me, a DRM infested game that is forever tied to my console is useless... nothing more than a paper weight. A damn coaster for my drink. That is the core issue for me. So, yeah, your plan could backfire. It could get a lot of people, such as myself, who only buy new games, to start buying them much, much, much later and at a heavily reduced price. Pro tip: You want better sales? Make better games. Anyway, these morons need to **** off. This isn't beneficial to anyone. You don't see any other damn industry trying to "block" you from selling or buying used products. Seriously. It's time for these morons to stop their moaning. Consumers like their rights, so **** off. Simple as that.

Quantity does not equal quality. It's never been about buying more games, it's been about providing gamers with quality titles and having the opportunity to rent/sell/trade/buy used for those that aren't worth the price.

Another corporate yes-man towing the company propaganda line.

>adds Dice to companies on my pirate list.

I know that if this happens I would be buying FAR fewer games than I do now. If I know I can't sell something when I'm done with it, (and with so many games being incredibly short or having minimal replay value, I don't see the need to keep most of them), I'm not buying it in the first place. The majority of games released these days are simply not worth $60. I understand that the industry needs to do something, but if the next-gen consoles can't play used games I probably won't even buy them.

if this the case since they didnt complain in the past and why know. because they want more money and next gen. everyone need to do high great games if not people not going to buy there games.

"But in theory, you could see it the other way, because a lot of companies making games today are struggling based on second-hand sales," How times do we have to go over this? Companies are struggling because they are releasing poor products on the market and not because of used games.

Maybe you should...I don't know...Make better games? I think the people that buy your games due to hype outnumber the people who pirate games.

I think in the coming years as a PC exclusive "gamer" I'm going really think about the developers and the publishers I purchase my games from. I'm tired of being ripped off by companies that insist on taking from people. Most people can't afford a really good gaming rig, so they buy a console. They're cheap/affordable ways to play games, in some cases you can buy used games from $10 a piece and come out of the store with multiple games for the price of one new game. Why would you spit in the face of people who, lets just say, want more bang for their hard earned buck?

[sarcasm]Yeah, I agree. Buy our games for over 60$ each, they are much better than the cheaper games, made by less known than our own company. We think only for your good, honest![/sarcasm] If you are going to make a game with less than 10 ours of gameplay, at least add a huge replay value so I would actually consider parting with my hard earned cash and pay for your (ridiculousy overpriced) product. And don't create useless DLCs at all. A new outfit? A better blade/gun? My horse get a new armor (TES: Oblivion) ? Please.

I think the issue is making games that people want to hang on to. I used to buy, play and trade once a week back in 2009. Although since then I have started keeping the ones I like, and rather than just buying a new game for the sake of it I will revisit it, pick up a few more trophy's and wait for a release I do want. The thing is how does me not buying games help the games industry. It does come across like they want you to buy as many games as possible, and then not be able to do what you want with the game that you own. Selling something that you own is not a crime.

I am not buying these dumbs**t ....No benefits (for consumers) will come from blocking used games....

Its not about making more games. Its about making quality games. If developers didn't make so many dud games then there wouldn't be so many used games.

"The only thing I know is that people are not doing it to be evil and stupid; it's about trying to create some benefits for consumers." ^then release games bug free and tested, 100% complete and working with no DiscLockedContent on release. this issue has not been addressed up to now and diverting our (consumer) attention to a "minor issue" such as going an all-out war against used games is just *shakes head* sad.. I dare you to release a console that can't use used games....let's see how it will turn out for you in the long run IMO its a big welcome because PC gamers will grow much more ^__^

The publishers are trying to brainwash us. All it is going to do is make me boycott a lot of developers. Anyone notice a lot of this mess is coming from EA and their subsidiaries?

[quote]The only thing I know is that people are not doing it to be evil and stupid; it's about trying to create some benefits for consumers.[/quote]No matter how many times you say it, that doesn't make it true.

"There could be awesome single-player-only games, which you can't really do these days because people just pirate them, which is sad." I guess the recent highly successful games Skyrim and Batman: Arkham City was just a figment of my imagination, which is sad.

"There could be awesome single-player-only games, which you can't really do these days because people just pirate them, which is sad." - Patrick Bach Pirating games is only a problem on the PC, since it is much more difficult to pirate PS3 and Xbox 360 games because it requires physically modifying the console's hardware and voiding your warranty, making it much less common. So no need to cram the pirating "issue" into a discussion regarding consoles and not PCs.

A lot of companies are struggling because they make bad games. Hey, here's a crazy idea: Stop treating the consumers like they're idiots and make a game people want to play.