DICE 'very interested' in Battlefield 4 eSports

Dice isn't anywhere near talented enough to make a balanced enough game for eSports. Look how often Blizzard, Treyarch etc tweak their eSports titles. Usually once every week or 2. Dice tweaks BF3 once every 4 or 5 months and still haven't gotten it right.

Who cares if it will be another e-sport. If battlefield 4 has online pass (which is almost sure), EA can kiss my balls very hard...

DICE may be interested, but do the players feel the same way?

e-sports is not a stepping stone for more milkage EA. Maybe if you don't introduce pay to win (rented server, godlike badmins) people might actually be interested in competitive play

Everyone would love to make an eSports game that a lot of people play, but if you can't do something interesting and bring on a lot of mainstream/casual gamers you won't be able to accomplish it. Besides, a lot of BF players are very toxic.

DICE: I am begging you, please please please make 2143 and make it a PC exclusive with titan mode! Please Dice, I love you guys so much as gaming developers and outside of Valve you are some of the last true great gaming developers out there but if you want to keep your core fans through all this craziness. Just focus very much on BC3 and very much on 2143. those are what will make you the top dog without any question asked(already are imo, I am honestly probably the biggest BF fan boy ever. Just take a look at my veteran status) but with all these modern shooters and the genre fatigue. This is something you must do!!! Creativity and thinking outside of the box is not what makes the numbers for EA, but it’s what keeps your core fans loyal, like me. And I have been loyal allthe way through bf3 and will be with bf4, but take what works and continue updating the frostbite engine and no one will be able to touch you.Also keep your PC players privileged, and your core crowd privileged.Don’t let EA push you around because you will be fine without them.

If DICE wants BF4 as an eSport, they'll need to somehow grasp the concept of how to balance a multiplayer game.

The patches for BF3 have just made balance issues even worse, since they've catered to aircraft pilots who don't like being shot down. First they nerfed the SOFLAM into oblivion by allowing flares to distract laser-guided missiles, and then they slowed down the missiles so that jets can just outrun them, so it's now pretty much pointless to try using a Stinger or Igla at all.

I guess players who never leave their jets are the most vocal on the Battlefield forums.

Of course they do.

finale i hated co op due to had badly dev it was. i only did it for the weapons and nothing more

Ugh if they are thinking of esports for BF then you can kiss big maps and lots of people goodbye. BF would not work as is because of the map sizes and player count. It would get out of control so all they can do is shrink the maps and players to allow for a more frantic game.

Oh wel, shooters are dead to me anyways, they can do whatever they want to a game I probably won't even play anyways.

They said the same about BF3. Look how that turned out; never even implemented a basic spectator mode even after a year's worth of fans asking for such things. Then again, that pretty much sums them up in terms of listening to feedback.

DICE: Very interested in Battlefield 4 eSports.

Me: Very interested in 12hrs long Single Player offline campaign.

Well, you just lost another customer DICE/EA. excuse me while I explore Columbia.

Oops, sorry, I just sneezed all over Battlefield 4's pretty screenshot. Ah! Now it has more flair!

In other words, "stop asking us about eSports" which means "we don't care".

For some reason, the words "at that time, it was" come to mind.

Even if bf wasn't an unbalanced and poorly supported turd, I still think it would be too slow at a structural gameplay level to make it into eSports.

Lots of complainers coming out of the woodwork for this one. I never understand this thing about weapon balancing, BF3 weapon balance is skewed to make all weapons viable, but realistically some weapons are vastly superior to others there is no two ways about it. DICE has chosen to keep the game a little more playable, seriously anyone with a LMG would murder everyone else, the PKP Pecheneg uses 54mm x 7 shells; dude that would tear a man to shreds in seconds(in the game they give you bad aim and does random high damage if hit in the upper chest area and head). It's a game so they can't have you blowing off limbs as many of the higher powered weapons would actually do.

Now if BF returned to no auto healing like games of old and realistic weapon damage then we would have a more strategic game, but it will be boring for the masses. You have to strike a balance in order to get sales to continue to push the franchise forward. CoD is fast a furious and wholly unrealistic to a point, but it's fun considering how many people play it. BF3 is slower and requires a bit more methodical play but it's still unrealistic but it's fun to play. DICE just have to find the correct balance between fun and realism, although with their talent I think they should really have a no holds barred hardcore mode that really forces thought with gameplay, like Socom back on PS2, one life use it wisely. Also DICE for the love of God, add a freaking practice mode for flight vehicles, it's insane to play multiplayer and the guy flying the chopper needs a few more lesson before he can learn to take off...what is with games these days with no sort of instructions just throw you in and expect you to play with pros who have been doing this for months and years.

THREEPOINTFIVE

YEAH FUCKING RIGHT!!! Dream on, DICE. You need to have a balanced and bug-free game, running at a decent framerate. Maybe in 3 generations? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@PSBEATSALLDEAL Its a learning curve that sadly was never shown in game. You're not the only one!

Co op in Bf3 was terrible as it had pretty much no battlefield feel to it what so ever just like the worst campaign the battlefield series ever had which was also in battlefield 3.

If EA and Dice wanted Bf4 to be a success then here is a list of improvements

* Bring Onslaught mode back as this is what the co op should have been.

* More destruction.

* Better maps that actually makes battlefield what it is in other words big maps in various settings.

* More teamwork integration like in Bad company 2 as Bf3 had little to no teamwork well it kind of did but alot of players treated Bf3 like call of duty.

* For console versions make maps that will actually be fun on consoles as well as pc, I understand about current gen console limitations however I think more can be done to make maps more enjoyable on consoles as Bf3's maps were very stale.

* Bring back commander mode.

* Although this will never happen it would be great if EA and Dice to allow full keyboard and mouse controls to consoles which would almost certainly not happen. :(

If all these things happened then Bf4 will be awesome.

Just get rid of the single player campaign altogether. Let us shoot bots if we want to (and then we can figure out how to fly things offline). All of the focus should be on multiplayer, not some rails single player experience.

Battlefield has taken the Call of Duty route, you can tell how everything released about the fourth installment looks identical to the third, even the fucking box art. This is now how E-Sports are made, this is just EA stirring up some drama.

If they made the game more strategic then I can actually see it being on eSports. However a random shoot everything on sight go straight for the point and take over it by having better aim than the others it's not that appealing for a mass audience. I don't really see Esports but I saw once a match in league of legends and people where getting exited and really hyped up when they made a good strategic play or 2 champions where having a duel and 1 barely beat the other. There's not excitement in just killing someone in BF you have to make the death count and the team play. It would improve the game greatly over all IMHO for people to want to watch it.

It's not even out yet and they're thinking about esports.