Final Fantasy 14 Song Claimed as "Unimaginative Theft" by Band

Called it Sampling in ye olden days, but they added their own flare somewhere in the music.

This is eerily similar... too similar to just say "Never heard of the band... our is original". They were better off just admitting that the composer was a fan of PM5K, asked for their permission to sample, and pay the fee.

Now you have a potential lawsuit....(Satriani vs Coldplay anyone?) and bad press... Both sides will settle though.

I'm not a fan either song and I'm definitely not saying they're exactly the same, BUT when you can literally sync the two songs at 14 seconds in, it's hard to say they are completely different as some people are contending. I'm not saying they should sue or anything, because a lot of songs have the same bpm and similar riffs, but I don't think making an anecdotal comment on Twitter is grounds to start some internet battle, either.

Base guitar in powerman is identical to realm reborns. Both open to a soft electronic loop. The chorus melodies do differ though.

More importantly, both are extremely corny.

Still if I were in the powerman band I could definitely see that as theft.

It's not theft, its nu-metal. It all sucks and sounds the same. The same could be said for this garbage and every shitty disturbed song.

all metal songs sound the same though.

They sound INCREDIBLY similar. Even as a Final Fantasy fanboy I have to agree with PM5K on this one.

For those who think this is "stealing": https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/47qokm/soken_pm5k_musical_break_down/

tldr: People are just too bad at music to notice that the songs are completely different, just the same style.

just play em together lol, they do sound so damn similar even the beat synchs up lmaooooo however both are shit although I'd have to say I think the final fantasy one may have the slight edge on being the better... well shit. Sorry powerman fans lol

Similar? Maybe but a direct rip off, absolutely not. The vocalists do have similar voices though.

No coincidence there. Quite the rip off.

Both sound like shit.

Wow! The lyrics are so wonderful, cool, and kick-a$$, for that matter. It's kinda odd that Sephirot makes worlds collide for the matter, to bring about "the end of all time", to quote "When Worlds Collide". The song is kinda sung by a Spider One-soundalike, for the matter. It was pretty much a Suspiciously Similar Song, IMO.

Sounds far too similar to be purely coincidental; perhaps the rhythm-challenged might disagree.

I'd say that someone doesn't know their genres. "Industrial" is a genre (with multiple sub-genres). "Rock" is a genre (with multiple sub-genres). "Industrial Rock" is fusion. Other than that... yeah, they do sound remarkably similar.

Why is this happening lately, like the 3rd top Japanese company being implicated with ripping off Western songs. It's a shame too because I love most of their classic Anime theme songs but some of these new musicians over their are getting a bit lazy on originality.

Rofl those are basically the same songs.

Thats a stretch, nice try though

I can definitely see the resemblance. But frankly every song in existence will be found to have another song sound quite familiar to it. Unless each cord struck and each word sung matches up it really doesn't matter. I bet their song sounds like one that was already made at some point before they made theirs as well.

Embarassing to be accused of ripping off a Powerman 5000 song. Would be like stealing credit for a picture a 5 year old drew.

Happy to see they aren't pressing charges or anything. Rare nowadays. I can certainly hear the similarities, but it's different enough to make it its own thing imo.

Rob Zombie's brother using someone else to bring him into the spotlight again? So unexpected!

As someone who plays FF (and is currently working on the fight), i can say:

- i like the feel that the music gives
- i actually learned about the power 5000 because of the song in question
- i don't think it of it as a steal, because the whole bgm (of the whole fight) isn't equal to a the song in question (but a part of it is)
- i would like it more if the song / part of it wasn't that similar
- it still gives me a rush feeling (and my foot "dancing") when we get to that phase, would be sad if they removed it
- maybe change that part so it does sound similar (but not same) OR give a special thx/recognition/money to the band and avoid all the crap
- lot of people respect Soken (composer of FFXIV) and i don't think anyone wants this to ruin his reputation / influence badly his new work/ new music in FFXIV in general

So yea, i like it, but it feels stolen. T.T

This is always really tricky to judge. Both songs certainly sound very similar, but then again both songs also sound like something Rob Zombie or Nine Inch Nails would knock off in an afternoon. It's a very stripped-down riff, and that only leaves you so many places to go with it. FWIW the first bit is very similar, but the 'end of the beginning' bit seems more original.

Then, of course, you get the usual problem with anything creative that you might hear something, forget all about it, then basically copy it when you're trying to come up with something of your own without realising it. Ultimately, I think it's a smart move to not take it any further, because all that would achieve is to make a bunch of lawyers rich(er).

I actually had this stuck in my head last night while playing Mercenaries 2! :)

Sounds similar, although neither of those tunes made me want to blow up a bus of nuns like When Worlds Collide does!

See also: Queen ft. David Bowie, "Under Pressure" vs. Vanilla Ice, "Ice Ice Baby."

He's right.. does sound alike

Does sound a lot like it. Ah on another hand THPS 2 brings back a lot of memories.

I played the Powerman 5000 song first. First time I ever listen to it. I then played the FFXIV video, and a few seconds in I had to pause it just to make sure I didn't still have the first video running by mistake.

They're both pretty terrible...

back! back I say! Back to the high school childhood nightmare you crawled out from, Powerman 5000! The power of Christ compels you {back to irrelevance]

That's just the way that style of music sounds. I'm sure you pull up other songs that sound similar. Like I always say, if you changed the key and/or the time signature of songs you can make them all sound the same.

https://youtu.be/QpB_40hYjXU

Wow, it's been YEARS since I heard When Worlds Collide.. and right when it got into the song (14 seconds) I thought I was listening to it with different words.

It's so damn similar. There's no way they could not be feigning ignorance with its creation.

Actually whenever I hear the word "Nu-metal" - I think of Chrono Trigger - not Final Fantasy http://s1.zerochan.net/600/29/29/128979.jpg

"The world begins and ends with the Nu"

Actually whenever I hear "Nu-metal" - I think of Chrono Trigger - not Final Fantasy http://s1.zerochan.net/600/29/29/128979.jpg

"The world begins and ends with the Nu"

It's pretty clearly a ripoff.

All you kids dont understand jack about music theory. This is the same song. Period. Yeah it doesnt have the original chorus, but If I only steal the verse of Stairway to Heaven, how is that not still stealing?

Its not a matter of sounding like the When Worlds Colide. It IS When Worlds Collide. Blatant theft. No amount of fanboi-ism will change that. They changed the lyrics. Still theft.