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Hellblade Isn't Tied to Heavenly Sword, Nor Is It a Spiritual Successor

Ninja Theory "loved making" Heavenly Sword, but insists Hellblade is "a brand-new IP."

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Ninja Theory's next game, Hellblade, is not connected in any way to one of the studio's first games, Heavenly Sword, despite the perceived similarities between the two.

Asked if Hellblade is tied to Heavenly Sword, Ninja Theory product development manager Dominic Matthews told Eurogamer, "No, it's not. It's a brand-new IP. Senua is a new character. It's not tied to Heavenly Sword at all. I saw someone describe the name as someone just putting Heavenly Sword into Thesaurus.com and going, oh it's Hellblade.

"It's not something where we've gone, yeah, let's make people think it is this. We really like Heavenly Sword. We loved making that game. So it's actually more just we like making female protagonists that look in a certain style. And we like swords. And we like hell. It's more that."

Hellblade was announced at Gamescom last week with the CG trailer above. Given the name, the look of the female protagonist, and the three key aspects of the game pointed out by Ninja Theory--"ninja-class melee gameplay, strong character stories, and a unique art vision"--it was easy to assume this was, at the very least, a spiritual successor to Heavenly Sword. But even that isn't the case.

"I wouldn't say it's the spiritual successor to Heavenly Sword, because that has certain expectations," Matthews said. "I think it's safer to say if people enjoyed Heavenly Sword, then the aim is they'll enjoy Hellblade, too. If we said it was the spiritual successor, there would be an expectation there is a story link or a certain type of gameplay or level design. It's a new IP. It's a brand new game. It's brand new characters. It's a brand new world. It's not linked at all. But if you like Heavenly Sword, like Enslaved, and like what we did, then the aim is you'll like this, too."

In addition to Heavenly Sword and Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, Ninja Theory developed last year's Devil May Cry reboot. Hellblade will differ from those games in at least one key way, as it's being developed as a digital-only game that Ninja Theory will publish itself.

Hellblade launches first on PlayStation 4, but it does not yet have a release date.

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well why not make it a different name or have the name is Latin?

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Everything related to this company is so steeped in mediocrity it's not even funny.

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Oh, hey, it's the guys who ruined Devil May Cry. Nobody likes you, Ninja Theory.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I like NT, and DMC. They certainly didn't ruin Devil May Cry. They made considerably better on most accounts.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I loved the new DMC. I thought it had excellent combat and an even better soundtrack.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> DmC not DMC, a mod should know better.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Excellent combat....where you could get SSS stylish with just a few swings....yeah okay.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I didn't find that to be the case, though part of that may have to do with what difficulty we each played on.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The Devil may cry reboot was actually pretty good but I guess you didn't actually play it.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>DmC failed.


The game didn't sell less than half of DMC4 just because they changed the colour of the protagonists hair or even making it dark and gritty. A lot of fans were terribly insulted and not many people buy things from people that just were insulting them.


However, I think the worst culprits here are the gaming media which did very selective arguing on what the problems were and kept praising the devs who in turn got some sort of god complex or something.

However, the biggest and most insulting thing, IMO, is how they pretty much outright said that the Capcom DMC games were "gay", during a press conference after this game bombed.

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After the game bombed NT held a press conference where they pretty much tried to explain their game and how it contrasts from the older ones.
Imagine a lot of "Ninja Theory is not Batman & Robin it's *Some "edgy" dark film here* (I forgot the exact film, sorry. I will see if I can find the pictures)

The worst offender, and the case I speak about?
They photoshopped DMC4 Dante in a Brokeback Mountain scene.
They never defended themselves, although some fans of this game said that they meant that "The game was outdated like cowboys and old Westerns."
The issues here is that...
1: Cowboys are still used. And very important to get your juicy steak at a reasonable price.
2: Brokeback Mountain isn't old.
3: If you really wanted to use an old Western, use the climax shot with the Mexican Standoff from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. It's iconic, easily recognizable, gets the point across and doesn't offend anyone by using "gay" as a potential insult.

And then to think that all of that could have been avoided by simply giving the following words after the first trailer.
"To our fans,
We took note of your cries of outrage at the latest trailer of the latest DMC game. However there is no need for it. We have a team on the case that will do their utmost best to provide a wonderful gaming experience for you. It will not replace the original franchise, it is a spinoff/alternate universe with its own timeline and characters, like, for example, Spiderman and Ultimate Spiderman. We kindly ask for you to have patience and await further trailers. We know you have concerns, and we will do our best to prove your concerns wrong."

But nope. The only problems were about the hair. Everyone who complained was a mindless hater and daring to speak up on Capcom Unity got you a ban.

Devs insult fans and franchise. Fans get pissed. Game bombs. Game fades into obscurity.
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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I refuse to play a Devil May Cry that isn't Devil May Cry. It's an insult.

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The New DMC is actually really good

U should stop follow those haters bandwagon and judge thing by yourself

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@Monsterkillah Yes, I judged by myself and decided not to play a Devil May Cry wannabe.It is a ****ing insult.

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@Monsterkillah Totally agree, DMC was very good, but hey the haters can't actually bother to really give it a chance. They just prefer to just trash it without giving it a fair try.

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No, not related at all . . . until the "Heavenly Sword / Hellblade" combo gift set comes out.

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Ah okay I see. Well better to leave HS untouched I guess.

"And we like hell" I don't think you quite mean that, do you? XD


Excited for the game anyway.

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"So it's actually more just we like making female protagonists that look in a certain style. And we like swords. And we like hell."

Uh, I'll call bullshit... have you even BEEN to Hell? That place is fuckin' awful.

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If it's not a spiritual successor or sequel, you guys need to do a better job with the name and the main character design. Hell Blade is the exact opposite of Heavenly Sword, and the main characters looks just like Nariko from Heavenly Sword.

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Not a sequel, nor a successor... they just let a 10 year old with a edged weapon fetish name everything, I'm guessing?


"Tommy, name our next game!"

"Uh... uh... Demon... Saber."

"Done! We're going to lunch."

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Great. I can't wait for "Purgatory Knife", which will of course by an entirely new IP that is completely unrelated to their prior works.

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The question is with it be better than Heavenly Sword which wasnt that great

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"Hell Blade" and "Heavenly Sword". If these two IPs are in no way related, then they really need to come up with more original names.

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Why are the character model in their games are so ugly?

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then wth is it??!

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LOL!! It's heavenly sword.. lol This is stupid...LOL

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