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Microsoft Teases "Exciting Enhancements" for Xbox Live and "Terrific" Games in 2017

The company also teases that 2017 will be "special" thanks to Project Scorpio and more.

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As the New Year kicks off, Microsoft today published a blog post that covers some notable Xbox statistics and achievements from the past year and teases what's to come in 2017.

Xbox marketing VP Mike Nichols started off by saying that Xbox Live "engagement" in November and December was the highest in the history of Xbox, with players collectively logging 3.9 billion hours on the service; that's up 23 percent compared to last year.

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Nichols did not share any sales numbers for Microsoft's big 2016 games, but said Forza Horizon 3 was the best-selling racing game in the entire industry for 2016. It also represented the "biggest Forza launch" ever. More than 14 million people have now played a Forza game for Xbox One or PC.

As for Gears of War 4, the game is seeing "incredible engagement" on Xbox Live. Players have logged almost 23 million Versus and Horde matches since release, Nichols said.

The Xbox One's backwards compatibility program continued to grow in 2016. Players collectively spent 265 million hours playing Xbox 360 games on Xbox One in 2016. Some of the year's most notable backwards compatibility releases included Red Dead Redemption, Burnout Paradise, the Mass Effect trilogy, and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. More games are coming this month.

Microsoft's Minecraft franchise also had a busy year, as the game received more than two-dozen updates, which added 150 new features to the sandbox game.

Microsoft added: "With new titles for Windows 10 and growth in Windows 10 devices, gamers played more than 2.5 billion hours just in November 2016, which is a 127 percent increase compared to November 2015."

Microsoft grew and evolved the Xbox One with numerous system updates in 2016, adding things like Looking for Group, background music, and Clubs, among other things. The Xbox Design Lab program was also a hit, with users creating 2.4 million custom controllers so far.

New hardware was released in August in the form of the Xbox One S. According to Microsoft, the system was "among the top-selling consumer products" this holiday.

Looking ahead to 2017, Nichols said the year is poised to be a "special" one, thanks in part to the launch of the Project Scorpio console, which Microsoft says is the "most powerful console ever." Microsoft will also launch a "terrific portfolio of new games," while a "number of exciting enhancements" are planned for Xbox Live.

What are you looking forward to from Xbox in 2017? Let us know in the comments below!

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Wouldnt mind some improvements to the achievement system, most importantly give us a way to show off our completed games and reason to go after harder completions like a bronze thru platinum completion achievement system based on completion difficulty. Everyone always goes after all the easy bottom feeder completions like tell tale games and other Indies to get that quick 1000 by the game. Wouldn't it be nice to have that gold or platinum completion achievement in your profile for completing gears or dark souls and you'd still get one for those easy indie and baby games but it would be a bronze. This system would show who the true hardcore completionists are and who the bottom feeders are with just a quick glance at someone's profile to see how many completion achievements they have and of which value they are. We need something like this to happen

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@BuyaPC: , MS don't need to copy lame sony with bronze through platinum the way sony copied MS' achievements system. MS already shows you when you have a rare achievement and tells you only 1% of gamers have it!

I have many 1% achievements got a bunch in Call of Duty 4 Re-masterpiece when it came out.

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@simplytheebest: you mean what MS copied???

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@Mirimon78: No, sony copied the MS achievements, did you just wake up?

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@simplytheebest: no, msft copied them. nearly 2 decades after the fact.

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@Mirimon78: MS had achievements LONG BEFORE sony ever had trophy's. Get an education. I remember when they patched in trophies on my ps3 and I laughed at what copy-cats they were and went back to the superior gaming on my 360. The ps3 got relegated to 3D bluray movie player.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-help/help-library/my-account/access-and-details/about-trophies/

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@simplytheebest: whltf is talking about sony?? Why do you keep saying that? Are you illiterate?

Msft got achivements 20 years after the fact, get over it. It's called history, read about it. (In case you are still lost, you claimed msft inventd it, they didn't)

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@Mirimon78: MS was first to have achievements unlock in gaming, FACT.

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@simplytheebest: no, that was activision, 2 decades ago.. and that is an actual FACT since it is varified by sources, evidence, historical archives.

Do yourself a favor and look up the history of achievement systems in video games. Better yet, do yourself a favor and reasearch everything you want to post before you do it, it will help stop you from looking like a jackass.

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@Mirimon78: No, it wasn't. Achievements unlock on a separate server.

Get an education.

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@simplytheebest: you didn't look up anything, clearly, and it seems you like looking like a jackass.

Videogame achievements were invented by activision in 1982.

Only an ignorant jackass could have posted anything else.

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@simplytheebest: I think he's saying that having 50 Platinums trophy like system is more meaningful than having 450000 achievements points made out of absolute anything.

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@xwinson: I know what he was saying, he posted in English.

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@simplytheebest: Well clearly not since you rambled on about percentage of people having an achievement rather than a solution that let people know what's within 450000 achievement points as a whole.

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@xwinson: MS' solution is better than copy-cat sony's. 1% or less of gamers having an acheivement means more than a stupid platinum trophy and is a far more accurate gauge of difficulty.

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@simplytheebest: Erm you realise that Sony did trophy rarity 1% style before MS copied that (yes I know Sony copied achievements in general)? lol!

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@xwinson: Yeah right, EVERYONE knows that gamertag.com was first to rank achievement rarity. sony couldn't even come up with their own ideas and copied achievements, copied HDD on a console, copied voice messaging etc. etc.

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@simplytheebest: Wow I thought we were specifically talking about consoles, but now you've rambled on about a third party website. The whole world more or less copies each other, you can easily find out if someone else did something first - at the very least we could narrow it down to consoles to have a decent argument.

I'm pleased that Sony and MS copy each other, because it generally benefits both sides. Although I wish Sony didn't copy MS mandatory subscription to play multiplayer since it was easy money for MS on the 360!

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@xwinson: Just more proof nobody copies sony.

sony didn't copy MS on the mandatory subcription because you get more than what you pay for on Live and seriously ripped off on posn.

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@simplytheebest: No worries I didn't include a list of what MS copied because I knew I would need it on your next reply.

MS copied Sony on releasing free games every month with their subscription - that is a major plus for any Xbox user.

MS are copying Sony on now allowing cross networking / multiplayer with PC because they were too stubborn before, example such as PS3 with Valve with Portal or FF14 with PS4 and PC - now they say they want to be a part of a trinity network (although Sony are saying no because they are still salty that MS refused them back in the PS3/360 days).

MS copied Sony idea on streaming console game/video feed to another device like handheld/PC.

See? Great ideas copied back and forth that benefits both console users.

Also what do you mean Sony didn't have mandatory subcription because XBLive had more during the PS3/360 days? Sony subscription had free games every month for 2-3 years which MS had none and they didn't lock basic apps / video apps behind a paywall like 360 did. MS servers were amazing in those days because their fans paid for it, now Sony servers have improved as well because of mandatory subscription.

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@simplytheebest: Man...you love making an ass of yourself lol

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@louixiii: That's not Nutella on your tongue, Francis you little sonyplug.

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@simplytheebest: And that's not cream cheese on your chin Francesca lol

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@louixiii: You can't even get support for high end FFB wheels on your garbage pos4 , Francis.

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@simplytheebest: Blah Blah Blah... you sound like a freaking broken record

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@louixiii: Says Francis who just posted Blah Blah Blah

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: Nobody likes you lolololololololololololololololololol

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: I couldn't possibly care any less what sonyplugs don't like, Francis

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: Nobody likes you lolololololololololololololololololol Go home xD

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: I'm not a sensitive little sonyplug, none of my business what sonyplugs like, Francis. You worry about it though.

Go to school

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: I own you xD

LMAO!!!

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: You couldn't even rent to own , Francis.

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: I rent to owned your mother xD She was cheap too lolololololololololololol

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: I saw the corner you have your daughter out working on, pulling the train she was.

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: Stop looking at my under age daughter. You're sick.

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: Stop pimping her, Francis.

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: You wish I was you sick bastard

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@simplytheebest: And unfortunately...they're both delusions xD

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: Grow up bro, stop telling us how bad Microsoft is, you're embarrassing yourself.

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@blitzking: Only if you grow up and stop worrying about what others have to say and mind your own business...you're embarrassing yourself xD

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@louixiii: If embarrassing ones self mattered here, you'd have stopped posting on your first day, Francis.

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@simplytheebest: Is that all you got? If so, you've gone soft xD

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@louixiii: I saw the pic of you in your panties what do you expect?

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: So you like looking at grown men in panties??? Thanks for sharing but that's TMI xD

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: And you thought you were passable, Francis!

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: The fact that you looked says how gross you are. You're a sloth xD

Go Home Little Boy!

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: Only long enough to close the window, Francis

Go to school, little girl.

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: Stop going to school to look at little girls xD

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: Tell us what's on your mind, Francis?

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: How I Met Your Mother xD

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: Francis' we don't care what your favourite TV show is. I don't even waste time watching TV.

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: I wasn't talking about the show xD

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@louixiii: Yes, you were, Francis.

Hey Francis, how come sony decides what your budget for a FFB wheel should be instead of your wallet? Why does sony limit your selection of FFB wheels to all plastic entry level? MS allows expensive all metal construction FFB wheels on their platform!

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@simplytheebest: You wish I was

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@simplytheebest: But unfortunately...they're both delusions lol

Hey Francis, how come Microsoft decides what your budget for a Kinect game should be instead of your wallet? Why does Microsoft limit your selection of Kinect games to all repetitive entry level mini games?Sony allows high quality next level exclusives in all genres and not just shooters for their platform!

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@simplytheebest: yeah MS didn't copy Sony with the original Xbox either right?

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@skot_free: That's right, wtf could they have possibly copied? Get an education if you think sony was even remotely close to inventing the console, KID!

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@simplytheebest: pretty much every part of it.. msft has not been the first to do anything on consoles..

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@Mirimon78: Did your alarm clock just go off? Consoles were around for two decades before sony ever made one.

MS was the first console to have a UHD disc player so right away you're wrong again!

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@simplytheebest: again, nobody said sony made it, I am saying msft didn't. UHD, pfft. Had msft got its way before xb1 launch you would have had NO disc drive. As it still stands it doesn't out of the box unless you initialize it online first, begging the question of why bother in this digital age where digital tv and movie content sale skipped past disc based long ago.

But, if people like you get their way net neutrality will be gone and all of our internet will take giant steps backwards, get ready for offline play again! Thanks Trump supporters for shooting us all in the foot.

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@Mirimon78: "pretty much every part of it.. msft has not been the first to do anything on consoles.."

That was your direct quote, don't backpedal now!

Your speculation doesn't mean jack to me. There is a drive, FACT. You can pfft all you want, but bluray is inferior to UHD so you're just being forced to settle.MS won't force its fans to settle though.

The reason for movies on disc is because its superior bit-rate destroys the bit-rate of streaming and last I checked movies most certainly have NOT skipped past disc based distribution.

You lefties are hilarious with your end of the world scenarios. We're here, we've always been here , we'll always be here!

You're only getting ready for offline play because you backed the wrong system. Live and Steam mean I'll be playing while you're on hold to sony CS.

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@simplytheebest: didn't back anything, why do I need an xb1 for a uhd when I already have a uhd player? but the one thing the xbox doesn't have, and is missing hundreds of, is games, hames in 1080p, games in 4k, exclusive games.... it is missing soo many of these why even call it a console?

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@Mirimon78: It doesn't matter what you own, the point is sony is missing it and included a INFERIOR drive. This is indisputable and FACT.

sony is missing hundreds of games, games in 1080p, games in 4k, exclusive games. It is missing so many of these why even call it a console. It's nothing but a toddlers toilet stepper, just look at it.

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@simplytheebest: sony missing games??? Looked it up, they have 4 times the library on the 8th gen alone...

Its ok, don't let your delusions hurt you too much.

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@Mirimon78: I looked it up, MS wins in a landslide. Oh looky sony is still using a dated and inferior drive. MS kicking ass and taking names! I have more titles in my MAME folder alone than sony has in it's entirety, hahaha!

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@skot_free: They definitely copied Sony with that hard drive and the online ???

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@simplytheebest, @skot_free: give me a break, that's how the world works. Companies "copy" from eachother. If companies didn't "copy" the iPhone then the iPhone would be the only smartphone on the market. If car companies didn't "copy" eachother there would be an little options and variety in cars and car brands. This could be said for nearly any company and product available. Companies see what eachother are doing, notice when there is smart and effective idea, and find a way to implement a similar concept.

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@scottyp360: Nothing you say can make us stop laughing at pathetic copy-cats!

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@simplytheebest: apologies, I was unaware I was conversing with a child. When you get older and become an adult you'll understand that no one cares about "copy cats" unless a copyright law is being infringed.

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@scottyp360: You only speak for yourself, sonyplug.

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@simplytheebest: lol yup. exactly how I would expect a mature adult to respond. Way to prove me wrong.

I don't give a damn which company or console does better. I own both a ps4 and xboxone. last gen I only owned a 360. It does me no good to root for or against either company. Like a rational gamer I want both companies to excel and be as great as possible because at the end of the day we all win. Having one company succeed and the other fail is bad for gaming and gamers altogether.

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@scottyp360: It's not hard to prove you wrong, no big deal.

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@simplytheebest: you haven't even proven me wrong about anything smh. But whatever. I honestly don't care. You "win" this imaginary argument you've created. Enjoy your award and trophy (they are also imaginary).

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@scottyp360: If you actually read the posts you'll see I did.

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Mark my words on this... Sony will come out with a PS4 Pro 2 a little after to make sure it's more powerful then the Scorpio. Or heck, just call it the PS5. Watch and see. I expect it a few months after Scorpio to see how well it does. Then 6 months to 1 year it will launch and MS will be weaker once again and people will be talking about who runs 4k better... It will never end.

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@oasisbeyond77: How many consoles Sony plan on releasing if they do release a new console shortly after scorpio would be bad in my opinion to many releases people wouldnt know what to get and would be a big FU to old owners

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@oasisbeyond77: Are you only about 10 years old or something? This has been going on since the 70's.

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@oasisbeyond77:

ps4: Nov 2013

mid upgrade ps4pro: Nov 2016

ps5: 2017? 2018? Awfully fast no? Games take years to build, maybe devs should skip ps4pro then?

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@oasisbeyond77: I don't think so. It would be a smack in the face to all the people that just upgraded to a PS4 Pro. I'd say it will be 2019 before its announced and a 2020 release.

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@brandiesel: I don't know the console world is quickly changing. It's looking like gaming companies are heading in the direction of smartphones where they are releasing upgrades only a couple/few years apart. I do expect them to continue a trend where new consoles don't mean old consoles and games with become obsolete. Like what ms is doing with Scorpio, xboxone games will still work with Scorpio (possibly with visual enhancements) and, as far as I know, Scorpio won't be getting exclusives the games will just look and perform better on scorpio.

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@scottyp360: Yeah you might be right. I know one thing, if they don't have games that are exclusive to the Scorpio then that's not good. If it only upgrades games then wants the point unless they are major upgrades? Still gonna buy it on release day though.

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@brandiesel: I agree, however looking at the specs, compared to the Xbox One S and PS4 pro, the upgrades are major. I like what Microsoft is doing. And playstation will not make an attempt to match them console for console because of the cost. Microsoft has set the bar ridiculously high with the scorpios hardware. They just have to out market PlayStation and court companies to make exclusives. This should be a great year for gaming.

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@brandiesel: my understanding is that it is a true 4k machine. Where as ps4 pro up scales games to 4k, Scorpio will run games at a native 4k display. Maybe they will have Scorpio exclusives but if not my guess is that there will be games that will run poorly on standard xbox ones making it all but necessary to upgrade to a scorpio.

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@scottyp360: pro runs native 4k....

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@oasisbeyond77: Your words are marked, so I can have a good laugh later. MS consoles run real VR HMD's and real all metal FFB wheels that also work on PC.

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@oasisbeyond77: I think console development is a bit more complicated than that, but I agree that Sony already are working on their next console. I don't expect a PS5 to be out before 2019 holiday season at the earliest though. And I'm pretty sure there won't be another upgraded version of the PS4. That would just be a horrible marketing strategy.

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@lordbeefjerky: Why would sonyplugs want a pos 5? To invalidate their present collection of games?

At least MS got rid of generations and all titles will carry forward with each iteration.

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@simplytheebest: I'd expect Sony to adopt that trend as well. They would be foolish not to. They received a lot of flack for ps4 not being backward compatible, especially after xboxone received the BC update. It shouldn't be difficult to do either since consoles essentiallyrics use pc architecture these days.

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@scottyp360: not a single of those two console actually has bc by definition.

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@scottyp360: And sony is known for being foolish, 6 hour controller, support for only 1 HDD, no UHD player, checkerboard 4k etc, etc

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@simplytheebest: power life of the controller should be improved but atleast it doesn't require the purchase and replacement of batteries everytime the controller dies.

1 HDD...as in the hard drive? Not really a concern when you can upgrade the hard drive if more storage is needed. Doesn't the Xboxone only allow external hard drives?

For UHD are you referring to a 4k bluray player or the ability to play UHD content? I don't fault Sony for not going with a 4k bluray player because it would have likely resulted in a much more expensive ps4 pro. Great for videophiles but not so great for people already reluctant to by a Pro. Unless you mean the pro can't even do UHD video play back at all, such as netflix streaming, in which case I would agree.

I admittedly don't know much about 4k so I really can't comment on the checkerboard thing.

MS will likely cover all these areas with the Scorpio but it will only be a matter of time until Sony comes out with a counter for scorpio. My guess is they'll weigh out the reaction and reception to Scorpio and get to work on a similar system.

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@scottyp360: I didn't have to buy any batteries EVERYONE has AA batteries.

"Not really a concern"? When my XO HDD gets full I'm not forced to move everything to a new larger one, I can simply add a HDD and keep using the full one as well.

I have BOTH internal and external HDD's on my XO with games installed on both of them so there's your answer to that one.

I said UHD player . I don't care what your opinion about it is, I'm laying out FACTS. sonyplug opinions are like the weather, changing daily. Once 1080p was so important over 900p, but ever since Scorpio was announced somehow resolution isn't as important to sonyplugs anymore. Yeah, 1080p or 1440p VS true native 4k, haha!

Who cares what sony does after Scorpio? It will always be the inferior platform in terms of network infrastructure, features, accessories and game titles. Considering sony just launched pos4.2 you're going to be waiting for YEARS!

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@simplytheebest: "I didn't have to buy any batteries EVERYONE has AA batteries."

Did I miss something? Are AA batteries suddenly free? So I can just go to a store, grab a pack of AA batteries, and walk out the store no purchase necessary? Or does mommy and daddy buy the AA batteries for the household so you don't need to worry about? Either way I like that when my ps4 controller dies I can simply plug it in and continue playing. I cringe when my Xbox tells me "controller battery low" because that means I need to hope I have a pair set of batteries somewhere in the house.

I get what you mean by HDD now. I was unaware of the difference at first. The Xboxone has the edge there but both companies messed up at first by initially releasing consoles with such low storage. 500 GB wasn't enough for most gamers.

Fair enough with the UHD player just expect scorpio to cost a pretty penny. It will definitely be the most powerful future proof console on the market but the price will also reflect that. With the PS4 Pro Sony was just trying to release a cheaper visual upgrade whereas MS is going all out with the Scorpio. Really the Scorpio should set the tone for the future of gaming consoles.

"Considering sony just launched pos4.2 you're going to be waiting for YEARS!"

Or I could just buy a scorpio since I'm not a slave to a gaming company. See this is the difference between me and you and this is what you are not understanding. This isn't an arguement to me it's a conversation. I don't care which company or console is better because if it's something I want I'll buy it. The company logo on the plastic gaming machine under my tv makes no difference to me. It could be xbox, playstation, nintendo, sega, or apple for all I care. If it is going to provide me with great gaming experience that's all I care about. Plus systems like the ps4 pro and scorpio are pointless to me right now until I invest in a 4ktv, which won't be until later this year at best.

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@scottyp360: You missed something alright.

Only a complete waterhead could even try and argue that 6 hour battery life is superior to 40+ hour. I can't even fathom how low the collective IQ of sonyplugs must be.

Never once have I cringed when my XO says my batteries are low. It takes me 11 seconds to remedy. Just another difference between Xboxers and sonyplugs.

I can still keep using my 500GB HDD when it's full (which it is). Another difference between Xboxers and sonyplugs.

Scorpio will cost $499 or less.

Smart people will already have owned an XO when Scorpio comes out so they don't have to re-purchase their games.

Scorpios advantages aren't limited to resolution, even without a 4k TV it's a superior product.

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@simplytheebest: again dude I own both an xboxone and ps4. I get the best of both worlds, though I'm sure you would insist there is nothing good about owning a ps4. Not sure how that makes me a "Sonyplug" but I suppose it's hard for a fanboy to understand that there are people out there that really don't give a F about a console war that you fight for.

But I will leave you with this..

"Scorpios advantages aren't limited to resolution, even without a 4k Tv it's a superior product.

http://wccftech.com/microsoft-dont-buy-xbox-scorpio-4k-tv/

Dude Microsoft themselves is saying don't buy Scorpio unless you own a 4ktv. I also never argued about Scorpio being a superior product, in fact I'm pretty sure I agreed it would be the most powerful console when it launches.

It's amazing how dedicated and loyal you are to a company that makes a videogame console. And by amazing I mean embarassing and pathetic.

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@scottyp360: I don't buy garbage that tries to dictate what I'm allowed to spend for peripherals. Imagine being smart enough to realise what 6TFLOPS can do compared to 1.3 WITHOUT needing an article???

Imagine being smart enough to realise that besides resolution there are graphical effects, anti-aliasing, frame-rate, low persistence virtual reality etc, etc that are also influenced by power?????????

Now not being able to comprehend that is pretty embarrassing and pathetic!

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@simplytheebest: damn dude you are more loyal to the xbox brand than people that work for the company, unless you do work for the company.

It doesn't take a genius to understand that more power=more possibilities but when the company making the machine says "Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don’t have a 4K TV, the benefit we’ve designed for, you’re not going to see." It tells me that maybe I should hold off on the console until I have a tv that can display the full benefits. I'm not going to pay upwards of $500 for something if I can't experience all that it has to offer. Likewise I'm not buying a 4ktv until I can afford devices that utilize 4k technology (ie: a console capable of 4k display).

"I don't buy garbage that tries to dictate what I'm allowed to spend for peripherals." You do know that you are defending a company that released a console with a required peripheral, resulting in a more expensive product, because the console "could not work without it" only to remove that requirement months later resulting in that peripheral becoming obsolete?

Again I have no side in this debate it's just crazy to me that you don't see that both companies (Microsoft and sony) and brands (xbox and ps4) have their share of flaws. Neither is perfect and at the end of the day they aren't all that much different from eachother. They are two companies that want us to buy their gaming products.

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@scottyp360: Apparently it does take a genius, shame. Even simple folk no there is more to image quality than resolution. You don't need a 4k TV to see enhanced graphical effects or faster/more consistent frame-rates. You don't need a 4k TV to plug in a VR HMD

How can you not notice the same game look ugly on weak PC's and fantastic on powerful PC's?

I like the kinect and have no problem affording the console.I use it everyday so it's not obsolete. I should dictate how much I'm willing to spend on peripherals I'd be insulted to let sony babysit me. Telling Fanatec that their CSW BV2 was too expensive to license is a total slap in the face to the entire employed community. MS licensed it though...

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@simplytheebest: @simplytheebest: I think it is common knowledge that most games are going to look better on a PC especially a higher end rig. When it comes to Scorpio I'm sure games will look and run better even without going 4k, and of course developers are going to have more freedom on how far they can push the console, but for me personally I'm not willing to pay the price for that upgrade just yet, unless the Scorpio truly blows me away once it is officially shown off and demonstrated. If it's going to be the 4k beast the Microsoft is touting I'd like to take the full leap in, console and 4ktv, and not just get the console. Just my preference.

When it comes to the companies dictating certain things well you have to deal with that on both comsples. I certainly don't agree with all of Sony's decisions. I still don't understand why they thought EA Access was bad value seems like they just didn't want that type of competition on their own system, but Microsoft/Xbox isn't all consumer friendly either. Again telling customers "the Xboxone will not work without the Kinect" and then completely backtracking once they realized they were getting beat in sales. Or like when they didn't allow access to services like netflix unless you were an xboxlive gold subscriber when playstation users could use it for free (assuming they had a netflix membership). Even the original xboxone controllers that forced you to buy xboxone specific headphones while ps4 controllers allowed you use any pair of headphones that had a standard headphone cord. Not argueing what's better or worse just putting out that neither company is sunshine and rainbows. Also shows that the companies are willing to change.

And by the Kinect being obsolete I mean that they haven't really done anything with it since they dropped the requirement. It has basically become a voice command system for the Xboxone unless you use the camera to record yourself and stream/broadcast. If you use it cool but I'm glad I held off on buying an xboxone until a year after launch when it was cheaper and didn't come with a camera I wouldn't use.

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@scottyp360: It doesn't matter what you personally do, nobody will even notice or care. You're a grain of sand on the beach, if it goes missing........ So what?

The original XO controllers NEVER required you to buy XO specific headphones, I have a day one controller right here and it works with any 3.5MM headphone set.

Kinect will be a way superior cam for VR headsets than what came with my Oculus.

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@simplytheebest: cool

BTW please explain to me where you are plugging in a standard 3.5mm headphone into the original xboxone controller

https://www.google.com/search?q=original+xbox+one.controller+headphone+jack&client=ms-android-att-us&biw=360&bih=560&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIh9KErb_RAhWJ5CYKHZ4HCmwQ_AUICCgC#imgrc=gG_8WUh7iDS9eM%3A

Unless you purchased one of these

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/microsoft-xbox-one-stereo-headset-adapter-black/9008243.p?skuId=9008243&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=2da48893-30a5-4b24-b1ad-3185979905a0&ksprof_id=15&ksaffcode=pg184055&ksdevice=m&lsft=ref:212,loc:2

Kind of ridiculous for a company to dictate that you have to purchase a certain peripheral just to use a standard pair of headphones.

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@simplytheebest: I'm happy with the way Microsoft are heading too, but Sony has implied that the Pro will be the last upgrade of the PS4, and that they will continue with a next generation. How soon that will be only time will tell.

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@lordbeefjerky: Meanwhile, Xboxers get to keep compatibility moving forward!

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Xbox has always lead when it comes to console and online features compared to Nintendo and playstation and are continuing to do so. With IMO better blockbuster games than the competition and the upcoming behemoth Scorpio there's no question Xbox is still the best all round gaming package going.

Personally I haven't stopped playing Gears 4 social versus multiplayer since launch it's f...ing brilliant and FH3 is the best racing game I've ever played. Halo 5 is the best since the original the multiplayer is the best the series has. There's nothing on Nintendo or playstation that comes close to these multiplayer offerings.

I'm so happy that Microsoft have nailed Gears 4 multiplayer. It's the best in the series and still the benchmark 3rd person cover shooter in the industry. I only wish I was as good as Optic gaming so I could win some cash. ??✌️

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@gamerbum: you know what's even better? Owning multiple consoles so you aren't limited to the features and games of one system and company.

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@gamerbum: Blockbuster games? Halo, Gears, Forza are all getting old... It's time for new ip's that don't flop, and that's one thing MS just can't do, cuz they try to buy games exclusive but they end up just going on pc and ps4 and look and run better... They need to open Companies like a Sony to make top notch exclusives.

Either way, pc has most if not all games now, even XboxOne games.

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