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Sony Comments On PS4 Pro Sales And How They Compare To Slim Model

"The sales of Pro are stronger than that of Slim, as we see it."

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Sales of the PlayStation 4 Pro are off to a solid start, apparently. Speaking today during Sony's latest earnings briefing, CFO Kenichiro Yoshida discussed how sales are coming along. Yoshida said sales are meeting or "maybe" exceeding expectations.

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"PS4 Pro is running as we had expected, as we assumed, but Pro maybe is doing more than we anticipated," he said (via DualShockers). The executive reportedly added that PlayStation VR had an impact on PS4 Pro sales, with people apparently wanting to pick up the more-powerful PS4 to use PSVR.

Also during the call, Yoshida said PS4 Pro is selling better than the Slim model. "The sales of Pro are stronger than that of Slim, as we see it," he said.

As for PSVR, Sony said sales of the virtual reality headset are "in line" with expectations. PlayStation executive Jim Ryan said Sony was expecting to sell "hundreds of thousands" of units at launch.

The $400 PSVR launched in October, with the $400 PS4 Pro going on sale in November. The new Slim model ($300) debuted in September. Earlier this week, Sony announced two new $500 PSVR bundles.

For more on Sony's latest earnings report, check out GameSpot's breakdown here.

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Don't drink the kool-aid with "PSVR is so much better with the Pro" it's not IMO. When you have the PSVR hooked up to the Pro you can only display 2160p in YUV420 for all your games which to me looks like absolute trash the colors are so washed out and it doesn't support HDR, if the PS4 pro is hooked up directly to the TV then it supports 2160p RGB which is true 4K IMO displays great colors and supports HDR (Seriously it looks better in 1080p than this garbage setting). I got so sick of having to plug in my PSVR when I used it then unplug it from the TV/PS4 pro when I didn't use it I just gave up and moved my PSVR downstairs with my vanilla PS4.

Anyways if you look at forums with this issue I'm not the only one dealing with this annoying problem. I know it sounds petty, but plugging in than unplugging the PSVR is a real pain in the arse. With that being said I really am enjoying my Pro the 4K looks much better than I was anticipating and the new Pro mode in the 4.50 update looks fantastic can't wait!

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Wow this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's worst than Microsoft now.

So basically when every region reports that the pro only makes up 10 to 20 percent of ps4 sales. Sony then turns around and says that 20 percent is a higher number than 80 to 90 percent.

Wow.

I swear Sony is garbage compared to the Sony I knew 20 years ago. They haven't been the same since Microsoft came in.

Now they are even bigger liars than microsoft.

It's ridiculous to think the pro would outsell the slim.

Unless they sold 6 million pro units in January.lol

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The PS4 Pro launch didn't get much help from the likes of Bethesda. One of my US friends bought the Pro the same time as me but when we found that the Skyrim remaster ran smoother on the base PS4, he immediately took his PS4 Pro back to the shop for a refund. I kept mine because I knew devs always struggle at launch and that the advantages would come later. I'm starting to see the advantages slowly coming now and the hardware is starting to shine. Lots of great games now and they are looking impressive on the Pro.

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Normally Sony release numbers when their consoles are selling well which makes me think pro isn't selling as well as they hoped.

I really want to try VR but there's no way I'm gonna waste money on psvr. It's just not good enough. Maybe when Sony brings out psvr 2 which hopefully does away with all the god damn cables, improves the resolution and is un tethered ill jump in.

I might even get a Rift along with Scorpio if the 2 do become compatible.

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@gamerbum: don't waste your time with psvr for the money it's trash.

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@gamerbum:

That will cost you. It's all down to what the market can afford because you basically get what you pay for.

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@gamerbum: get the Vive instead it's better.

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@garysan:

True but even more expensive. Early adopter pioneers always pay through the nose. Sony tends to trail the cutting edge to offer value for money before the diminishing returns kick in. The PS5 in 2019 will probably be the time when VR gets very high quality on console and TV's get true native 4K HDR 60fps gaming at a reasonable price the market can afford. Right now, PSVR is a good start to supply a taster of what's to come without spending a fortune.

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VR still needs improving. From what i have seen, the tecnolagy is too expensive to make yet, it will have very litle suport in gaming. And everyone i see using the headset gets nauseous within 10 minutes of using it

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@leon00x: agreed. VR is still expensive and may remain that way for even longer since Oculus may now be blocked from further sales due to litigation from Zenimax and Oculus.

I'm a 1st person shooter gamer at heart and VR just doesn't work for that right now. Not sure if it will ever be good for FPS in the future.

I can see maybe one day where the technology gets adopted on a mass scale to lower the costs and games that really utilize it enough on a higher level.

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@rex500: there are vr headsets that are in development right now that will make it possible to play fps. The range that psvr and vive have now isn't good enough for a half decent vr experience.

I read an article about one design that uses 4 screens. You can't see any blank space around the screen with that set up. So you won't have to turn your head to look left just your eyes.

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"The sales of Pro are stronger than that of Slim, as we see it."

As we see it? Does that mean they actually haven't sold more then the Slim?

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@shay-cormac: they don't want to face the public with the truth. The ps4 pro was a bad decision for sony.

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Pc master race? No thanks. I have a pretty powerful pc rig as well. Not the 1080 but the 1070 card. Plenty powerful enough. However, I don't use it for gaming at all. The amount of hackers and cheaters is just crazy on PC.

I currently have the xbone S and PS4. I trying to sell my PS4 so I can get the pro but I don't think I will now. Going to keep the PS4 and pick up the Scorpio instead. I can still play all the Sony exclusives and use the Scorpio for all the multiplats. Then play on the switch when on the go. Best of everything ;)

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@rex500: best awnser ever

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@rex500: I agree about all the hackers. It makes PC gaming fucked up.

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I would say that regardless if Scorpio will be more powerful or not, the matter of fact that PlayStation has the better games matters. Why is this? Because of it's success. This happened to the 360 as well. Ps3 was the most powerful console at that time, with a bluray player built in. Yet, it did poorly because of the 360's success. Same will happen to Scorpio. Just because it will be most powerful console, doesn't guarantee success. Besides, if Scorpio decides on backwards compatibility, it will lower the power of the system itself. We are also in that day in age where everything is streamed. So I don't see why people hate the Pro for not having a 4k bluray player. Don't even get me started with Xbox exclusives... How many Halo's, Gears must you all have before you grow sick of it. Stop beating the dead horse.

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@njleos3: what games? lol

What games are you talking about. They are garbage no one buys them. 9 out of the top ten most popular ps4 games are currently on xb1. 26 out of the top 30.

These games your bragging about no one plays.bwahahaha The bottom line is that ps4 exclusives are over rated, mediocre, and irrelevant.

The reason the 360 did better than ps3 was because it was easier to develop games for the 360 when compared to the ps3. You're crazy so adding extra hardware for backwards compatability will make the xb1 Scorpio less powerful. More hardware equals less power to you.lol You can't get the same quality of picture and sound from streaming not to mention that you need a minimum of 25mbps to stream 4k. For those millions that don't have access to a fast connection physical media is the best choice. Streaming is fine but for us movie people streaming isn't good enough yet. Halo and gears are getting old, but it's still better than any first or third person shooters on ps4. Is better to play halo than killzone. Am I right or wrong?

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@neoistheone: I moved away from Xbox cause their exclusives list is too small, Halo and Gears of war have been getting worse and worse. Atleast with PlayStation u get a huge variety of exclusives.

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@njleos3: thing is that latly MS has been ofering better services to their custumers. With the free backwards compatibility and the multi system games. Their gold membership is also slightly beter then ps plus and the thropy system is actualy worth something on the xbox. Ps3 was beter then the xbox at the time. But it was the underdog. Now its the reverse.

Exclusive title wise its not a big deal as it used to be. Not for me anyway. With each year there are less exclusives, instead we see delayed releases or extra items for a system. Ps4 exclusives i have played was the zombie one with the girl ellie... That i forgot its name. Did not really enjoy it much... But what i did enjoy was ruined by the ending. The other exclusive was uncharted. But at this point uncharted is to sony what halo is to MS

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Sony... just start phasing out the slim and drop the price of the pro to the slims price and call it a day

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Haters be like......"The more powerful Scorpio is coming out this year."

What decent games do you have to play outside of Halo 75, Forza Horizon 3, and Gears 4?

*Crickets*

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@sonypony4eva: 9 out if the 10 best selling games for ps4 are on xbox.

Basically the Scorpio will play 95 percent of ps4 games,better.

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@sonypony4eva: Sea of thieves

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It is a bit like starting the obvious, if you have any sense and don't have a PS4 you will go for a pro.

I have a PS4, but don't feel the need to upgrade right now.

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I told people that VR wasn't going to "blast off" like they had thought. People don't want to invest a arm and a leg into it

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the price for the VR is too much

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I already got an amateur PS4 that I'm quite happy with so I don't see me upgrading anytime soon. I got it with my TV which is only 1080p, so I wouldn't benefit from any of the 4k stuff anyways. The performance boosts would be nice though, but even those seem to be hit or miss on whether their worth it.

I wouldn't mind a PSVR however, but I'm in no hurry and can wait to see how well it actually does.

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@archav3n:

Ps4 masterbate

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"The sales of Pro are stronger than that of Slim, as we see it."


..."as we see it"
I think this means that it isn't literally selling more, but the PS4 Pro is meeting expectation more than the PS4 Slim is.

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@doctor_mg: That's what I was thinking too. Shopping during Black Friday, there weren't pallet stacks of Pros like the Slim had. I saw 50/60 Slims stacked together and maybe 6 to 10 Pros.

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"The sales of Pro are stronger than that of Slim, as we see it."

No sh*t Sherlock.

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@Terminator95: you don't actually believe that do you?

The slim model out sold the pro model by millions this last year.

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If you don't have a PS Pro yet, get one. It's awesome baby!

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@kvally: No point buying it, now that Scorpio is coming, Sony will just release an even better console two years from now. XBOX and Sony expect us to buy a new console every 2 years. No thanks, I'll just buy a gaming PC that I can easily upgrade.

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@Zombie8814: If they released consoles every year, I would buy them.

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@kvally: Same here.

When I was growing up, we had a constant trickle of more powerful, cutting edge hardware, and it was freaking great. Last gen went way, way too long. This is a trend I can get behind. I prefer console gaming, but when the gap between console and PC starts getting too wide, I find myself PC gaming much more. At the end of last gen, I wasn't playing anything on consoles for the last two or three years of it.

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@kvally: If you have so much money to burn, then why not just buy a $5000 gaming computer and hook it up to your TV?

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@Zombie8814: I like console gaming more but I already have a great gaming PC too.

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Well I'm gonna play conspiracy here and say it's actually the other way around.

It's a very vague statement and most importantly, no actual numbers.

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@ziltoid: except for all the exact numbers they constantly publish each qtr, showing shipped, sold-in, and sold-through separately by sku.....unlike some other companies

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@Mirimon78: you mean the 238,000 and 1.2million from december?

Yeah its ridiculous to think the pro is out selling the slim.

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@Mirimon78: Well, then I ask you kindly to point me to an article where they openly talk about Pro and VR sales numbers, not total consoles sold. Then I'll gladly agree with you. All you get are some Japan sales number, which apparently have been turning the other way around as I mentioned.

On a side note, bringing up the "point finger to competition" card, that's the cheapest way to run from an argument.

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